The JV-1080 and one of those cards sounds like exactly what I need, and more affordable than I was expecting, too. Thanks a lot guys.

so I've got a few synths that i noodle around with on my own to make electronic music, but i'm about to join a black metal band. so what i really need are good pianos and, most importantly, a good, epic choir patch. for once i'm not looking for something with a lot of programming capabilities, just ...

connecting it to the ion's ext input via the standard output on the casio would let you run it through the ion's filters and such. you dont need midi for that. a midi connection would allow you to use the ion to play notes from the casio, or vice versa.

there's a thread somewhere on it. the consensus seemed to be that it was neat, but lacked some features to make it worth such a big price tag.

I got an Alpha Juno 1 from a music store when i was fifteen or so. I had previously had a Radio Shack keyboard. I was just getting into various sorts of synth music, saw Roland and a cheap price tag, got excited, and bought it. I didn't learn subtractive synthesis for real, though, until I got a K-S...

yeah. on synths like the ion, or modulars obviously, you can divide it even further by having one oscillator go solely to each filter, creating two completely different signal paths going to the amp. or you could have one osc going mostly to one filter but a little to the other, and vice versa.

thanks a lot for that, it's something i've been wondering about for a while. haven't messed around with filters in parallel much.

bandpass.

yeah, i'd actually like choir sounds that don't sound real. if you use them right, i think they are eerie as h**l.

I think choir sounds are difficult too, subtractively. I'd love to be able to do them though.

It's not the best sounding synth I've played, but there's something I love about my K-Station. I can always make it do exactly what I want it to do with ease, and it's my favorite thing to program, despite the fact that it has fewer features than some of my other gear. Probably because it was what I...

I'd say a Juno 6/60 or the K-Station.

i've done a bass sound on my alpha juno through guitar effects simulating a triple rectified amp, and it literally shakes my building. the distortion manages to create really long sustain. it's hard to work into a mix, but it sounds damn cool.

both of these are recorded live from the mic on my laptop, because i don't have any recording gear. the quality isn't bad, though some of the texture is lost. it's all pretty subtle melodies and such. i don't really push my synths to the limits or anything; i'm more interested in texture and subtlet...

for the money you'd spent on the controller, wouldn't you save money by selling the micron and buying an ion?