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Opinions on upcoming TR-808 and SH-101 Boutiques

Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 7:21 am
by NCChao1268
Released on 808 day, Roland will be releasing two new boutiques-reissues of the famous TR-808 and SH-101 mono synth. They both look as cool as the original with the SH 01A sporting poly mode. Both have use of the ACB, although maybe for the price they look kind of promising. What are your guys' thoughts on them? Feel free to comment.

-Nathan

Re: Opinions on upcoming TR-808 and SH-101 Boutiques

Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 11:26 pm
by Rick N Boogie
Just had a go with the new SE-02, and it is all it's cracked up to be. Lovely sound, small but engaging interface. I am still in love with the JP-08 I've had for nearly 2 yrs. The Boutique series have been exceptional, imo.

Re: Opinions on upcoming TR-808 and SH-101 Boutiques

Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 1:49 am
by NCChao1268
The SE-02 looks pretty cool, definitely something new that Roland hasn't really done before since the interface doesn't look too much like a Roland, just the over all style of the synth-and the first real analog synth that Roland has done in a long time. You've had the JP-08 for 2 years? I thought they were recently released. When did it come out?

-Nathan

Re: Opinions on upcoming TR-808 and SH-101 Boutiques

Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 10:30 pm
by Factory all stars
Too expensive for what you get,my drums in ableton sound better from the demo I heard,, if they had made them bigger,and real analogue,they could've charged £150 more and sold more,and what the h**l are those ribbon strip things on the 101? all they do is take up valuable room!

Re: Opinions on upcoming TR-808 and SH-101 Boutiques

Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 12:13 am
by Jabberwalky
They should have put a hand grip and guitar strap on that 101.

Re: Opinions on upcoming TR-808 and SH-101 Boutiques

Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 1:59 am
by pelican
considering boutique means low number production, expensive product. They are oxymorons. F that little format

Re: Opinions on upcoming TR-808 and SH-101 Boutiques

Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 4:05 am
by meatballfulton
The Boutiques are not expensive at all, unless you have a very different definition of expensive than I do.

Re: Opinions on upcoming TR-808 and SH-101 Boutiques

Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 7:45 am
by NCChao1268
What many people say of these boutiques is that they are "a vst in a little box" which is in many ways true considering the digital recreation of them. If the SH 101 boutique was a true analog recreation tuned to sound like the original, I'd buy it in an instant. The two ribbon controllers are stupid and take up tons of space, the classic Roland style joystick would be best on those things. Other boutique synths like the JU-06 sound pretty good, but lack the original six voices and the two banks of patch memory. Personally I think the boutiques are great ideas, but are falling short on a few things.

-Nathan

Re: Opinions on upcoming TR-808 and SH-101 Boutiques

Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 8:10 am
by princefan3
Think they've made a right pigs ear of the SH,what a mess. However I do like the TR08 and it will sit well with my TR09 and I lack space anyway so for me ideal.

I agree with the last post in I think that roland want to give us a hardware experience in a software form.

I think that because a lot of VST s can do so much to a sound these days we search for perfection in our production.
Years back it used to be that's the best I can do now you, the engineer make it sound better.
So does it really matter that it lacks the punch of an old TR808 because others will put it right back for you anyway.

Re: Opinions on upcoming TR-808 and SH-101 Boutiques

Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 8:24 am
by Factory all stars
Too expensive as in ableton sounds better/already own it v £340 for a shrunken vst in a box, and tal bass line 101 £40 v same for the other bit of c**p,that's my definition of too expensive ,gotta admit tho,before I got into vst's I'd of got all of them,like I say,not sure who they're aimed at-kids will be right into computers so should see software is a good if not better,obviously cheaper,older people will clock them for what they are and wish they were bigger/analogue,sure they'll still shift a s**t load tho

Re: Opinions on upcoming TR-808 and SH-101 Boutiques

Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 11:18 pm
by supermel74
Will definitely be picking up the TR-08. I get a kick out of the clowns on youtube saying it sounds like garbage and nothing like a real 808. Most of them would fail to distinguish between the 2 in a blind test.

Re: Opinions on upcoming TR-808 and SH-101 Boutiques

Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 2:51 am
by meatballfulton
Factory all stars wrote:Too expensive as in ableton sounds better/already own it
But Ableton Live is a DAW (and I own it, too) not an instrument. The Boutiques are cheap as synths go and synths are cheap as instruments go.

Plugins will always be cheaper than hardware, anyway. So hardware mfrs should just fold up their tents?

Re: Opinions on upcoming TR-808 and SH-101 Boutiques

Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 1:44 pm
by Ashe37
supermel74 wrote:Will definitely be picking up the TR-08. I get a kick out of the clowns on youtube saying it sounds like garbage and nothing like a real 808. Most of them would fail to distinguish between the 2 in a blind test.
Most of them probably think all 808s sound like whatever the most common 808 sample set is......

Re: Opinions on upcoming TR-808 and SH-101 Boutiques

Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 10:32 pm
by Factory all stars
The bloke asked for opinions,some people like them which is fine,I think they're overpriced,this is also fine,yes Ableton is a daw, with samples that do in my opinion,as good a job,I have hardware for some stuff, vst for others,i grew up on acid house etc,from 86 onwards,and really it's not important what gets the job done,as long as it gets done,blind tests could fool anyone at times, no need for cork sniffing or reverse snobbery,it's about making music at the end of the day, don't suppose ENO gives a s**t who uses what

Re: Opinions on upcoming TR-808 and SH-101 Boutiques

Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2017 11:25 am
by vinyl_junkie
I find it a little odd they did the 101 as a boutique seeing as we already have it on the (fantastic) System One hardware platform which is far more versatile and as a Aira VST plugin let alone a load of other third party plugins.

To me it's just lack of imagination on Roland's behalf always going for the same magic numbers when they have a load of other fantastic stuff in their back catalog but I guess the noobs don't want to know about the "other" synths until some person uses it on a famous album and uploads a video on youtube.

If they were to re-do something I don't get why they don't re-do say the 09
It's discrete and could imo be re-done in the analogue domain without much difficulty let alone I think it sounds nicer.