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New Roland Boutique.

Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 5:18 pm
by tim gueguen
Betcha never saw this one coming. Now half the songs written over the next year will include Digital Native Dance, just like 1988. :lol:
https://www.roland.com/ca/products/d-05/

Re: New Roland Boutique.

Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 6:33 pm
by NCChao1268
It looks really awesome, looks like Roland put in a lot of work int it. The fact that original D-50 patches can work with it and it's got a 64 polyphonic sequencer with an arpeggiator. The DCB Digital Circuit Behavior looks like a good digital recreation of an originally digital synthesizer. Original D-50 are getting a little more pricier. Maybe even worth getting over the original? Who knows? Look forward to hearing a demo of it.

-Nathan

Re: New Roland Boutique.

Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 7:19 pm
by mdannyg
Nice Legowelt video too. I'm definitely interested.

Re: New Roland Boutique.

Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 7:25 pm
by gcoudert
And it's 16-voice polyphonic, unlike the early 'boutiques'. That's why I didn't keep the JP-08.

Re: New Roland Boutique.

Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 9:22 pm
by desmond
gcoudert wrote:And it's 16-voice polyphonic, unlike the early 'boutiques'. That's why I didn't keep the JP-08.
It's basically the software plugin, in a box, with a little sequencer.

I'd prefer a permanent (and offline) license to the plugin version, but this is a nice box for those that like the D50, which has remained basically one of the pretty unique sounding synths to date...

Re: New Roland Boutique.

Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2017 10:47 am
by vicd
:whistle: :dontknow: :lazy:
... any better than the VC-1 on the V-synths?

Re: New Roland Boutique.

Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2017 10:56 am
by madtheory
desmond wrote:
gcoudert wrote:And it's 16-voice polyphonic, unlike the early 'boutiques'. That's why I didn't keep the JP-08.
It's basically the software plugin, in a box, with a little sequencer.

I'd prefer a permanent (and offline) license to the plugin version, but this is a nice box for those that like the D50, which has remained basically one of the pretty unique sounding synths to date...
Agreed, this box is not much better than a software plugin. I really think they should have put a knobby interface on this box, bringing the D50 into the 21st century. The Roland team could've had a brainstorm and come up with some new ways to delve into this classic synth. At the very least I'd expect cutoff and resonance knobs!!

As it stand it's not worth the money IMO. I'll stick with the old keyboard!

Re: New Roland Boutique.

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 12:52 am
by tim gueguen
vicd wrote::whistle: :dontknow: :lazy:
... any better than the VC-1 on the V-synths?
It'll probably be cheaper.

Re: New Roland Boutique.

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 6:02 pm
by Jabberwalky
madtheory wrote:
desmond wrote:
gcoudert wrote:And it's 16-voice polyphonic, unlike the early 'boutiques'. That's why I didn't keep the JP-08.
It's basically the software plugin, in a box, with a little sequencer.

I'd prefer a permanent (and offline) license to the plugin version, but this is a nice box for those that like the D50, which has remained basically one of the pretty unique sounding synths to date...
Agreed, this box is not much better than a software plugin. I really think they should have put a knobby interface on this box, bringing the D50 into the 21st century. The Roland team could've had a brainstorm and come up with some new ways to delve into this classic synth. At the very least I'd expect cutoff and resonance knobs!!

As it stand it's not worth the money IMO. I'll stick with the old keyboard!
Even with the Pg1000 the D50 was not very expressive. At the least, they could have included some of those sliders though! Can't find anything about polyphony (would hope it's not the severely limited 4 like the other boutiques) I like the idea of having the d50 sounds in a small box and the sequencer seems pretty nice. Definitely have to try it first. Cool to see Legowelt doing the video.

Re: New Roland Boutique.

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 6:27 pm
by desmond
16-note polyphony, just like the original hardware and the plugin.

Re: New Roland Boutique.

Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 6:46 am
by crystalmsc
desmond wrote:16-note polyphony, just like the original hardware and the plugin.
I own 2 D-50s and a D-110, so glad to have it as a plugin with such a great GUI.
vicd wrote:any better than the VC-1 on the V-synths?
I've never compared both, but the plugin includes the extra waveforms and patches from the VC-1, no Standard or D-50 output mode though. This is a nice article comparing the VC-1 with the original D-50 https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/ro ... -vc2-cards

The plugin sounds good enough, but the real D-50 is more raw sounding to me. Hopefully they will add more waveforms with future updates, or maybe releasing something like a D-90 with more LA oscs type, digital/analog modelled filters and user samples.

Re: New Roland Boutique.

Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 7:45 am
by Ashe37
mdannyg wrote:Nice Legowelt video too. I'm definitely interested.
Would have been nicer if someone introduced the concept of 'lighting'

Re: New Roland Boutique.

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:29 am
by HalloweenJack
It looks like the D-05 has not the 28 new extra waveforms that are present in the V Synth VC1 card and in the D50 plugin version, if it's true that's really a very strange choice from Roland, since they were already there and ready to use why don't put them in the D-05? :?:

Actually I find these extra waveforms very useful, they extend the sonic palette of the D50 in an interesting and also "modern" way, you can edit sounds that were impossible to obtain with the original synth, I use them a lot in my patches...

Re: New Roland Boutique.

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 1:12 pm
by madtheory
crystalmsc wrote:no Standard or D-50 output mode though.
You mean the DAC emulation that the VC-1 has? I found that to be quite effective compared to the real thing. Personally I preferred the sound without the emulation. I felt it made the D50 sound more like a record. More like the tonality of Jarre's Revolutions, for example. Digital synth on analogue tape. Yum.

The omission of the extra waveforms is another oversight :(

Re: New Roland Boutique.

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 1:42 pm
by crystalmsc
madtheory wrote:You mean the DAC emulation that the VC-1 has?
Yes, a bit curious about it. But I'm more than happy with what it is, the extra waveforms made it fresh.