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Help Identyying synth used on childrens album

PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 3:54 am
by harryjacoby
Hello synth enthusiasts
I have been a fan since childhood of a video series called Baby Einstein. Lately I have been trying to find the synths used in the series. I'm guessing they used the Roland JV/XP series. Here is the soundtrack for one of their videos called Baby Mozart. It was made in 1998. Please help me identify what synth was used in this.http://dataup.sdasofia.org/MUSIC/Music- ... le%20Ears/

Re: Help Identyying synth used on childrens album

PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 10:30 am
by madtheory
It's Yamaha FM with layers and chorussing, so I would think it's a DX-7II or TX816.

Re: Help Identyying synth used on childrens album

PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 2:30 pm
by harryjacoby
madtheory wrote:It's Yamaha FM with layers and chorussing, so I would think it's a DX-7II or TX816.

I am part of a Baby Einstein fandom and we have made our guesses. Did you reconize any patches from these synths?:
Fairlight CMI,
Korg X5DR,
Alesis QS8
Roland SC-55
Roland JV/XP series
EMU Proteus series

Re: Help Identyying synth used on childrens album

PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2018 12:46 pm
by madtheory
Only listened to tracks 1 to 5, those are all DX7II. I did hear a flute in there that's possibly EMU Proteus.

The rest of the tracks are largely EMU Proteus series IMO- the characteristic strings, pianos and woodwinds. Some of the percussion sounds are possibly Roland JD or JV, but could equally be the EMU. Could not be XP as that was built subsequent to the production of this music. But people will say XP because a lot of JD/ JV waves are still in the XP.

Reasonably sure I don't hear the characteristic hard compressed attack style of the Korg ROMplers in there, so I would guess no for any Korg. Not too familiar with Alesis QS so I cannot say.

I am 100% certain there's no Fairlight CMI I IIx or III. Am intimately familiar with that library, in my hobby work on porting it to Kontakt for personal use. There are not even the Fairlight sounds that were "borrowed" by Korg, Roland or Emu for their ROMplers.

Re: Help Identyying synth used on childrens album

PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2018 12:33 am
by BEMaster14
madtheory wrote:Only listened to tracks 1 to 5, those are all DX7II. I did hear a flute in there that's possibly EMU Proteus.

The rest of the tracks are largely EMU Proteus series IMO- the characteristic strings, pianos and woodwinds. Some of the percussion sounds are possibly Roland JD or JV, but could equally be the EMU. Could not be XP as that was built subsequent to the production of this music. But people will say XP because a lot of JD/ JV waves are still in the XP.

Reasonably sure I don't hear the characteristic hard compressed attack style of the Korg ROMplers in there, so I would guess no for any Korg. Not too familiar with Alesis QS so I cannot say.

I am 100% certain there's no Fairlight CMI I IIx or III. Am intimately familiar with that library, in my hobby work on porting it to Kontakt for personal use. There are not even the Fairlight sounds that were "borrowed" by Korg, Roland or Emu for their ROMplers.


Interesting. As these were early tracks of the Baby Einstein Series, there would be more to come. This album does have the Korg AI2 Synthesis ROMplers. I myself have an X5DR and I sure know a lot of synth presets heard in the album; like GM Music Box, GM Harp (This is an early version of the album so it's the Pre-QS Harp Pluck) and etc. And sure it's a DX7? I have an Emulator for one and the EPs don't sound like the ones in BM at all. But I get it because it's pretty hard to capture what EP sound belongs to what synth.

Re: Help Identyying synth used on childrens album

PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 6:10 am
by musictheorist
I've contacted Bill Weisbach one time, he said his custom (DX7 Yamaha FM type) sound was from a Korg wavetable synth, then later on in 2000, he started using a Waldorf synth.

Its likely he tried to recreate the quality of what a FM electric piano is like.

And for the Harp Pluck that's difficult, maybe it's the Korg X5DR but filtered to reduce the reverb from the harp patch.

Also, for the sampled animal sounds in Mozart, Weisbach uses The Hollywood Edge's Premiere Edition Volume 1. (For a dog, cow, duck, cat, and a bird tweet.)

I recently discovered the Alesis Cool Vibes patch from the QS8, and it's just amazing.

Re: Help Identyying synth used on childrens album

PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 9:46 pm
by harryjacoby
musictheorist wrote:I've contacted Bill Weisbach one time, he said his custom (DX7 Yamaha FM type) sound was from a Korg wavetable synth, then later on in 2000, he started using a Waldorf synth.

Its likely he tried to recreate the quality of what a FM electric piano is like.

And for the Harp Pluck that's difficult, maybe it's the Korg X5DR but filtered to reduce the reverb from the harp patch.

Also, for the sampled animal sounds in Mozart, Weisbach uses The Hollywood Edge's Premiere Edition Volume 1. (For a dog, cow, duck, cat, and a bird tweet.)

I recently discovered the Alesis Cool Vibes patch from the QS8, and it's just amazing.

Can you take a pic of your email and post it here?

Re: Help Identyying synth used on childrens album

PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 1:09 am
by musictheorist
harryjacoby wrote:
musictheorist wrote:I've contacted Bill Weisbach one time, he said his custom (DX7 Yamaha FM type) sound was from a Korg wavetable synth, then later on in 2000, he started using a Waldorf synth.

Its likely he tried to recreate the quality of what a FM electric piano is like.

And for the Harp Pluck that's difficult, maybe it's the Korg X5DR but filtered to reduce the reverb from the harp patch.

Also, for the sampled animal sounds in Mozart, Weisbach uses The Hollywood Edge's Premiere Edition Volume 1. (For a dog, cow, duck, cat, and a bird tweet.)

I recently discovered the Alesis Cool Vibes patch from the QS8, and it's just amazing.

Can you take a pic of your email and post it here?


Sorry, I emailed it years ago and it is sadly deleted by mistake... but it is actually true. I emailed Mr. Weisbach himself.

Re: Help Identyying synth used on childrens album

PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 1:26 am
by BEMaster14
To musictheorist (I didn't want to quote your statement about deleting the email)
That's really cool you got to have a hands on Weisbach himself. a few things I have to say then I have more questions. No, the harp pluck isn't from the X5DR (I have one, great little tool for music/DOS gaming) it is from yet the Alesis Pre-QS (Quadrasynth, S4) I've seen users on YT that posted factory demos on the units and they do have the plucking sound heard throughout the series. I might try to get an earlier QS machine (maybe rack or keyboard) just to get that sound (and cool vibes) so I can remake the pieces (I do that too) .

and one question, do you know (or did he ever tell you) about a celesta, there's one in Baby Bach (sequal to Mozart) that sounds like it's from a Jenco Celesta from the 50's and it sounds sampled. Because there's no way a synth can pull off a realistic sound like that (at the time) unless it's actually from one. (my best guess Alesis patch 108 on S4)

Well because I know in Harry's email (he told me about it) that he sampled toys (70s grand toy pianos and such) and the celesta might be one.

anyways that's all I want to say and if you see this you're very lucky (because sometimes weisbach doesn't look at fanmail) and hopefully there's more answers in the future. ;)

Re: Help Identyying synth used on childrens album

PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:46 am
by musictheorist
I have trouble finding the Alesis S4/Quadrasynth Harp Pluck?

Can you find the video that has that?

Re: Help Identyying synth used on childrens album

PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:57 am
by musictheorist
I think Weisbach just used an Alesis S4 Module (not a QS8) (it has the Cool Vibes patch)

Re: Help Identyying synth used on childrens album

PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2018 8:52 pm
by BEMaster14
musictheorist wrote:I have trouble finding the Alesis S4/Quadrasynth Harp Pluck?

Can you find the video that has that?


Hi once again. Glad you read my posts ;) one is here

https://youtu.be/AuHn8q-Q6eA?t=2m36s (had to add the minutes and seconds)

and this one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAhBqatMHA0&t=13s

I hope that helps :)

Help identifying synth/patch from kids show

PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 9:36 pm
by Mr. Cringe
Hello synth enthusiasts
I have been lately I have been trying to find the synths used in the show Baby Einstein, a show from my childhood, I know they use Roland, Alesis,EMU and Korg instruments but there some instruments in some of the shows soundtrack that I haven't found yet and that I really want know about, Please help me identify what synth was used in these songs.
Links down below


1. (Only flute and electric piano part)
http://mediaset.sdasofia.org/MEDIA%20SE ... vement.mp3

2. (only electric piano part at the beginning)
http://mediaset.sdasofia.org/MEDIA%20SE ... nstein.mp3

Re: Help Identyying synth used on childrens album

PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 10:59 pm
by Music Bird
Sounds honestly like a Yamaha XG module or Roland GS module. When was this released?
I think I hear the Roland Sound Canvas flute or Yamaha XG flute and a piano patch that I don’t recognize. The piano sounds like an SY-22 or X5DR.
Edit: the flute is from a Roland JV series, the piano sounds like the Korg M1 E. Piano 1 patch.