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Which keyboard is this in Mr Mister 1985 setup?

Post by Lucien » Sun Jul 22, 2018 10:25 pm

Any idea which synth or more likely controller this is from Mr Mister's setup 1986? It seems it has weighted keys and it has a joystick style controller on left. Full video is here:

The other synths I recognize as Prophet 600 and Emulator. But this one I don't recognize and probably some master controller.

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Re: Which keyboard is this in Mr Mister 1985 setup?

Post by FalkenLab » Sun Jul 22, 2018 11:15 pm

Maybe the Kurzweil Midiboard?

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Re: Which keyboard is this in Mr Mister 1985 setup?

Post by Lucien » Sun Jul 22, 2018 11:35 pm

Many thanks! You are right must be a Kurzweil controller. Here's a shot from left side. Looks more like a joystick than pitch wheel but design is unmistaken Kurzweil (it even has those exposed screws at the top).
You wonder why he used a controller when he had so many synths already... But not uncommon those days. Maybe hooked up to a sampler although majority of sounds sound more like an analog synth like Prophet 10.

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Re: Which keyboard is this in Mr Mister 1985 setup?

Post by spock » Sun Jul 22, 2018 11:48 pm

Hmmm, the top looks wooden in the first picture so my first thought was Korg Lambda but no, it's just stage lights reflecting.

Kurzweil Midiboard was my second thought, but no, it's a Roland MKB-300 MIDI master keyboard, a lovely looking instrument (but shame it is velocity sensitive only, no aftertouch). Sadly not on VSE, but here: (more pics on French version)

https://en.audiofanzine.com/73-76-key-m ... r_reviews/
https://fr.audiofanzine.com/clavier-mai ... d/MKB-300/

You can see Roland's pitch bender at 7'27" in the video (your last photo) and that the keyboard's lowest note is E, and at 20'08" you can see the top note is G. At 7'35" you can see the Roland logo covered over with black tape. Another rear view is at 1'58". At 8'40" the red stage lights are reflecting off the silver buttons, and the distinctive arrangement of buttons confirms it.
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Re: Which keyboard is this in Mr Mister 1985 setup?

Post by FalkenLab » Mon Jul 23, 2018 12:00 am

Yes, that’s definitely it, great find! =D>

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Re: Which keyboard is this in Mr Mister 1985 setup?

Post by Lucien » Mon Jul 23, 2018 12:02 am

Thanks very much, indeed seems Roland MKB but there are some small differences. For example that parameter text on the right side is missing on the MKB-300. Second it seems in the video there's a wider LCD display.
But Roland joystick curve with those 2 sliders are identical including that outside curve. Kurzweil wasn't released until 1988 so can rule that out. MKB-1000/300 were released 1984 so that matches the time. Maybe some variant.

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Re: Which keyboard is this in Mr Mister 1985 setup?

Post by Lucien » Mon Jul 23, 2018 12:22 am

Here's a better picture. Not quite MKB-300 it seems but there are a lot of similarities:

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Post by spock » Mon Jul 23, 2018 12:24 am

At 27'26" he gets up from it to press buttons on a Yamaha QX1 sequencer atop the rack ready for the final song "Kyrie". But I can't see clearly enough what's in the rack: looks like some 8-channel mixer, seen briefly at 0'26"+1'58"+6'07"+19'29", then again at 28'34" during his atmospheric Emulator solo, where you can see what must be an Eventide H910 Harmonizer at the bottom of the rack judging by the white buttons (1+1+4+4).

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Re: Which keyboard is this in Mr Mister 1985 setup?

Post by ItsMeOnly » Mon Jul 23, 2018 4:42 pm

Lucien wrote:Here's a better picture. Not quite MKB-300 it seems but there are a lot of similarities:

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Could be it's big brother. MKB-1000

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Re: Which keyboard is this in Mr Mister 1985 setup?

Post by Lucien » Mon Jul 23, 2018 4:52 pm

Highest key is a C so it could be rather mkb-1000 but not mkb-300.

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Re: Which keyboard is this in Mr Mister 1985 setup?

Post by Micke » Tue Jul 24, 2018 12:01 pm

Highest key is actually F if you look more closely, so it's got to be a MKB-300.

Here's an interview with Mr. Mister from the same year which reveals some of the gear they used at the time (including the MKB-300):
http://www.muzines.co.uk/articles/trans ... ister/1689
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Re: Which keyboard is this in Mr Mister 1985 setup?

Post by Lucien » Tue Jul 24, 2018 4:23 pm

Micke wrote:Highest key is actually F if you look more closely, so it's got to be a MKB-300.

Here's an interview with Mr. Mister from the same year which reveals some of the gear they used at the time (including the MKB-300):
http://www.muzines.co.uk/articles/trans ... ister/1689
Seems right side of my first screenshot is very misleading (maybe some light obscures keys) but looking at 20:08 it's clearly G so you're absolutely right:-).

Great article, thanks again! That also answers what it was hooked up to. I thought the bell like synth sound on Broken Wings was another Prophet but live at least a DX7/TX816.

PS You can see he's actually inserting a floppy disk during one of the songs:-).

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Re: Which keyboard is this in Mr Mister 1985 setup?

Post by celebutante » Thu Aug 02, 2018 8:46 am

A little MKB-300 info... I used these as my main live controllers for years. The cool part is they have a flat top, which was perfect for Macbook on left (I'm all MainStage) and a skinny four-oct controller on the right (Novation Xio in my case). They have a unique, "clacky" semi-weighted keyboard with a feel you'll either love or hate. I liked it.

The bad part is they have no MIDI controllers besides the pitch joystick, they weigh a ton (I don't know the exact weight, but it's gotta be over 40 lbs), and being kludgey early MIDI, they send an all-notes-off command when you release the sustain pedal, which is horrible. Fortunately, this can be filtered in Mainstage. Worst of all, the keyboard construction is weak, so it's really easy to break keys, especially black ones. I ended up buying another one and using it as a key donor 'til I finally gave up on it, but replacing keys is no picnic.
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