Roland SH101 - "rare white colour model"

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Roland SH101 - "rare white colour model"

Post by gmeredith » Thu Apr 11, 2019 8:04 am

Interesting - I have always believed the whole white SH101 to be a myth, and if existent, to be a fake.

But here on Roland's own website they claimed it was real:

https://www.rolandcorp.com.au/blog/rola ... ynthesizer

I have never seen one that was verified to be genuine.

What does everyone else think?
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Re: Roland SH101 - "rare white colour model"

Post by Mooger5 » Thu Apr 11, 2019 8:01 pm

Present Roland´s employees... I think they would probably say there was a white Jen SX1000 too.
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Re: Roland SH101 - "rare white colour model"

Post by meatballfulton » Thu Apr 11, 2019 10:13 pm

Most Roland employees were either children or not born yet when the 101 was around. Ultra-rare is definitely the right term. Never even seen a pic of one. All the ads were as shown on that page: grey, red, blue.
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Re: Roland SH101 - "rare white colour model"

Post by Mooger5 » Thu Apr 11, 2019 10:48 pm

Exactly. These new employees are the same who revealed that the 106 hpf added a bass boost in the lowest setting like it was some big news when imo they read it here first in this forum. They seem to also claim the tr7x7 is 12 bit when it´s 8 bit.
The white 101 they saw was most probably by customsynth (or whatever the name is). We've had a previous thread disccussing it. Kids today just weren´t "there" and have to rely solely on the internets. And sometimes not enough research happens.
The previous Roland employees are gone, either retired or deceased.
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Re: Roland SH101 - "rare white colour model"

Post by Mooger5 » Thu Apr 11, 2019 11:15 pm

viewtopic.php?p=383491#p383491

And, these are only minor quibbles, nothing really important. Youngsters will always have their own slightly distorted version of history.
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Re: Roland SH101 - "rare white colour model"

Post by Yekuku » Fri Apr 12, 2019 11:04 am

I am no sh101 expert , but I agree with Mooger5 and meatballfulton.
With discoloration happening to the Sh101 plastic cases , white sh101s should have turned yellow by now, just like the green/khaki and the light red/pink discolored units.
All whites I have seen in pictures are milky white, so they should have been repainted.
It is not the first time that Roland messes up with their history.
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In their Tb303 acid flashback page, they mention " before sculpting with the 24 dB low-pass filter (often misquoted as 18 dB, 3-pole) "
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Re: Roland SH101 - "rare white colour model"

Post by gmeredith » Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:26 am

Yes, all your replies are as expected and as I suspected. Customsynth does such a good job at replicating original panelwork you would think it was genuine Roland silkscreening, I have seen their white one and it is convincing. It's such a shame the young generation Roland employees aren't given a "factual history training course" to get them up to speed on representing their company. There are still a lot of old synths coming in to Roland for servicing. You wouldn't want them to go looking on ebay to find a set of fake replacement vca chips for a Juno 106.
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Re: Roland SH101 - "rare white colour model"

Post by madtheory » Sat Apr 13, 2019 4:19 pm

Mooger5 wrote:And sometimes not enough research happens.
This is the problem. It's so convenient to Google information, that most people, not just kids, don't feel the need to go to the trouble of checking the source. In this case, if they had gone to the trouble of looking in the service manuals, they'd know the truth. Doubtless there is manufacturing documentation private to Roland that only exists in one forgotten filing cabinet in one of their Japanese factories, where the actual plastic material and coating used in the SH-101 could be ascertained, and then a materials expert could go look for industrial aging tests done on those materials.

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Re: Roland SH101 - "rare white colour model"

Post by desmond » Sat Apr 13, 2019 5:36 pm

Well, to be fair, they did say it was *very* rare...
Like, not a single one exists... :lol:

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Re: Roland SH101 - "rare white colour model"

Post by madtheory » Sun Apr 14, 2019 10:05 am

lol

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