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ID this synth?

Post by ldead » Sat May 02, 2020 2:43 pm

Hey friends

Love this track by Sin Falta aka Joy Orbison. Would love an ID for the synth at the start and throughout.
Thought is was the Syncussion SY0.5 eurorack, but don't think so. Also sounds similar to a Pearl Syncussion (or clone).
But I have a Syncussion SY-1m and have spent hours working with it and it's not quite right.
Any thoughts.... I really love those tones and would love to know how they're made or from what synth?

What do you think?


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Re: ID this synth?

Post by Z » Sat May 02, 2020 3:31 pm

Sounds like an FM synth to me.
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Re: ID this synth?

Post by ldead » Sun May 03, 2020 1:39 am

Z wrote:
Sat May 02, 2020 3:31 pm
Sounds like an FM synth to me.
Any idea which FM synth it could be?

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Re: ID this synth?

Post by Z » Sun May 03, 2020 2:07 pm

ldead wrote:
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Z wrote:
Sat May 02, 2020 3:31 pm
Sounds like an FM synth to me.
Any idea which FM synth it could be?
Could be any of them. They all pretty much sound the same. There's obviously going to be minor differences between each model, especially 4 operator versus 6 operator models.

I'm no expert in FM synths, but the sound in question seems basic enough for a 4 op FM synth.
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Re: ID this synth?

Post by meatballfulton » Sun May 03, 2020 2:51 pm

The metallic hit does sound like FM to me, too. It's not as "clangy" as analog ring modulation.

The bass note after it could be just about anything.
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Re: ID this synth?

Post by ldead » Mon May 04, 2020 2:22 am

Thanks for the reply all!
The FM clangy sound modulates throughout the track which make my think it's an FM synth with some sort of sliders, knobs etc. I could imagine something like Volca Drums, but the track came our before that synth was released.
I guess it could just be modulated with a frequency shifter, but doesn't sound quite like it to me?

What FM synth would create such a percussive clangy sound and be relatively easy to effect / modulate?

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Re: ID this synth?

Post by madtheory » Mon May 04, 2020 2:16 pm

Could be simple FM on an analogue synth.

Just look up how to do FM! This is a sound you'd get very quickly.

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Post by alfadawg01 » Mon May 04, 2020 2:24 pm

Here's his Facebook page, ask him! https://www.facebook.com/JoyOrbisonLDN/

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Post by Z » Mon May 04, 2020 4:42 pm

alfadawg01 wrote:
Mon May 04, 2020 2:24 pm
Here's his Facebook page, ask him! https://www.facebook.com/JoyOrbisonLDN/
There's a photo on his FB page with a DX200, which could be what he used, especially since it has some knobs for live tweaking.
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Re: ID this synth?

Post by madtheory » Mon May 04, 2020 10:06 pm

Z wrote:
Mon May 04, 2020 4:42 pm
alfadawg01 wrote:
Mon May 04, 2020 2:24 pm
Here's his Facebook page, ask him! https://www.facebook.com/JoyOrbisonLDN/
There's a photo on his FB page with a DX200, which could be what he used, especially since it has some knobs for live tweaking.
That's a pic Roman Flugel in his studio though. Check out the caption on the photo.

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Re: ID this synth?

Post by ldead » Mon May 04, 2020 11:53 pm

Thanks all.

I have a JV2080, Volca FM and a yamaha tg33.

Think any of these can handle the sound?
If once I get the sound the synth can modulate it in the same way it modulates throughout the track?

Maybe something like the DX200 (as there is a patch base editor for it on mac now) could handle the sound and the modulation?

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Re: ID this synth?

Post by madtheory » Tue May 05, 2020 11:00 am

ldead wrote:
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Volca FM
Seriously?

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Re: ID this synth?

Post by ldead » Tue May 05, 2020 11:20 am

madtheory wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 11:00 am
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Volca FM
Seriously?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Is this where you say, Volca is a toy don't bring it into a conversation for grown ups?

As you can tell from my initial question and my comments i'm not exactly "experienced" so yeah... seriously.

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Re: ID this synth?

Post by madtheory » Tue May 05, 2020 11:35 am

Quite the opposite. It's an FM synth, so go for it. As Z already pointed out, FM synths are all pretty much the same. I just googled "korg volca fm synthesis tutorial" and came up with a few that look good. I'd suggest Mark Doty's one.

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Re: ID this synth?

Post by ldead » Tue May 05, 2020 12:30 pm

madtheory wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 11:35 am
Quite the opposite. It's an FM synth, so go for it. As Z already pointed out, FM synths are all pretty much the same. I just googled "korg volca fm synthesis tutorial" and came up with a few that look good. I'd suggest Mark Doty's one.
Oh, good to know. Thanks, I appreciate it. I'll give the Volca another try.
Cheers for the tip.

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