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Post by AstroDan » Sat Aug 04, 2007 2:30 am

I don't think anyone can truly appreciate the level of despair of being in a band for two years with someone who refuses to purchase or play anything other than a Roland XP-10 fed through a shitty p.a.

So that one gets my vote.
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Post by differentbydesign » Sat Aug 04, 2007 1:56 pm

teknosmoker wrote:
differentbydesign wrote: You mis understand what i said but i thank you for insulting my programing ability based on nothing!
Uh......No need to get defensive there pal...

I never insinuated that you had poor programming ability. I simply stated that I believe people who fail to get a warm sound out of a JP-6 may not know how to program it well and cited an example of an excellent job that a forum member made demonstrating this point.
Dude sorry it seems it bit back a bit hard there I am used to another forum where every second posting is an attack on someone and you learn to get defensive1

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Post by Analogue Crazy » Sat Aug 04, 2007 3:17 pm

Yamaha SK-10
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Post by teknosmoker » Sat Aug 04, 2007 5:09 pm

differentbydesign wrote: Dude sorry it seems it bit back a bit hard there I am used to another forum where every second posting is an attack on someone and you learn to get defensive1

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No worries - it's all good! Sorry if it came across as such. I can understand your apprehension, as know that there are a ton of forums in which members get torn to shreds by trolls and people with ill-intent. I think that for the most part the members of VSE forums are just a bunch of friendly synth nerds looking to chat about our common interests, ask for advice, and help each other out. :)

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Post by zmd » Sat Aug 04, 2007 7:41 pm

Analogue Crazy wrote:Yamaha SK-10
an sk10? not familiar with that one..but, i'll submit the yamaha FB01 as the worst synth ever. its FM. its non programable aside from a few basic parameters, it sounds like the very definition of cheese (in fact, preset 14 in bank 3...if you hold down a C0, it actually pronounces the word "cheese").

of course, i'll never part with it. what else would i turn to to end rehearsals when the band members insist on jamming out blues in E for an extra 45 minutes... an FB01'll stop em everytime!
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Post by tallowwaters » Sat Aug 04, 2007 7:50 pm

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Pretentious bullshit
try being nicer.
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Post by nathanscribe » Sat Aug 04, 2007 10:51 pm

OriginalJambo wrote:[Remember the Juno has that bass boost circuit...
What, you mean the Sub Osc?

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Post by Joey » Sun Aug 05, 2007 1:02 am

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OriginalJambo wrote:[Remember the Juno has that bass boost circuit...
What, you mean the Sub Osc?
No, there is a built in Bass Boost circuit on the circuit board. You cant turn it on or off, its just there.
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Post by OriginalJambo » Sun Aug 05, 2007 2:15 am

Apparently there is a circuit inside the Juno that boosts the bass a bit probably before the output stage to give a more powerful low-end - as Joey pointed out.

Maybe it's not true but I've heard people refer to it before.

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Post by nathanscribe » Sun Aug 05, 2007 10:48 am

Which Juno are we talking about?

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Post by BadTeeth » Sun Aug 05, 2007 11:01 am

No, there is a built in Bass Boost circuit on the circuit board. You cant turn it on or off, its just there.
I know that if you set the HPF to zero its boosts the base. ie, its not filtering but rather boosting. Is that what you are talking about?


in fact, preset 14 in bank 3...if you hold down a C0, it actually pronounces the word "cheese"
ROFLMAO

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Post by OriginalJambo » Sun Aug 05, 2007 11:48 am

nathanscribe wrote:Which Juno are we talking about?
The 6 at the very least (probably the 60 too although the high-pass filter isn't as smooth in that I hear...just four states?) and what BadTeeth said sounds very accurate actually.

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Post by Analogue Crazy » Sun Aug 05, 2007 11:59 am

I have played the Juno-6 and Juno-60 and they have the same amount of power in the bass sounds. The HPF is not as nice on the 60 though. It has just 4 settings instead of being a proper slider. Apparently its because they ran out of prosessing power.
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Post by nathanscribe » Sun Aug 05, 2007 4:22 pm

BadTeeth wrote:
No, there is a built in Bass Boost circuit on the circuit board. You cant turn it on or off, its just there.
I know that if you set the HPF to zero its boosts the base. ie, its not filtering but rather boosting. Is that what you are talking about?
No offence, but this strikes me as the kind of thing born of rumour and misinterpretation. The Juno HPF is a single-pole, OTA circuit which should not boost anything. At its lowest setting, it should simply not cut frequencies. There's no indication in the circuit otherwise, nor have I ever considered this in 16 years of Juno use.

Of course, I might be wrong, and maybe there's some inherent characteristic of the circuit design at various points that acts to this effect, but from what I can see it's not a designed-in feature of the HPF to boost the low frequencies. I'll remain sceptical until someone can prove the contrary.

In practice, I don't find the 60's stepped HPF much of an issue over the constantly variable one on the 6. It's still useful enough. The improved interfacing more than compensates.

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Post by Shleed » Sun Aug 05, 2007 6:04 pm

It would only boost bass frequencies if the resonance was put up high...

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