3-tier keyboard stand - longer than 48 inches in length

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Post by MrFrodo » Tue Mar 20, 2007 4:59 pm

Very informative. However, I'd be luck to even get to toy with the Vave 2.3, or the EVU, let alone the PRK FD. I'll have to settle for other master keyboards.
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Post by xibalba » Wed Sep 12, 2007 7:51 pm

Does anyone know where i can get the accessories for these stands i cant seem to find any. I am looking for more of the holders to add more keyboards to the stand.

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Post by Z » Wed Sep 12, 2007 8:37 pm

xibalba wrote:Does anyone know where i can get the accessories for these stands i cant seem to find any. I am looking for more of the holders to add more keyboards to the stand.
I bought 2 of the On Stage 3 tier stands. They're pretty good. One of the On Stage stands I bought to chop up the parts to use on a USS Apache. At $100 a stand, the On Stage is a great deal even to buy just for parts. I contacted On Stage about buying an additonal tier to reinforce an existing stand and they wanted around $40 for the parts for a single tier. It's cheaper to buy a new 3 tier and part it out.

Be sure to check out the used market too. I found other tubular stands on Craigslist and evilBay. My 1st stand (which I still have) was made by KMD, which used the same size tubing.

USS Apache with "chopped" On Stage tiers:
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Post by xibalba » Wed Sep 12, 2007 8:49 pm

thanks thats actually not a bad idea, i havent got mine in yet but i am alas getting mine from evilbay as well.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... :IT&ih=009

so i shall see if it looks like the picture and hope i can get another one to use as parts, ultimatly i want to have another tier and i need more of those angled brackets because i have a little phatty and a korg micro x (yea i kno preset but its fun) that i would like side by side to save space

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Post by Z » Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:21 pm

xibalba wrote:thanks thats actually not a bad idea, i havent got mine in yet but i am alas getting mine from evilbay as well.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... :IT&ih=009

so i shall see if it looks like the picture and hope i can get another one to use as parts, ultimatly i want to have another tier and i need more of those angled brackets because i have a little phatty and a korg micro x (yea i kno preset but its fun) that i would like side by side to save space
Before buying the On Stage stands, I bought one of these. I wasn't real impressed with it mainly since I needed to use it with deeper keyboards. Kind of the same problem with the On Stage, but since they use tubular tiers on the rear, I can rest my large Matrix 12 on the "rear tier." On my USS Apache/On Stage stand, I used the Apache verticle supports and teir brackets but cut down the On Stage horizontal tubes.

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Post by synapsecollapse » Thu Sep 13, 2007 12:21 pm

z,

could you go into more detail about how you altered the USS and onstage stand to hold your rack gear in the first pic? i would love to do something like that, but dont know where to start.

thanks!

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Post by Z » Thu Sep 13, 2007 3:13 pm

synapsecollapse wrote:z,

could you go into more detail about how you altered the USS and onstage stand to hold your rack gear in the first pic? i would love to do something like that, but dont know where to start.
There really wasn't much to it. The USS came with really long horizontal tubes, but I have limited space in the room I use. Since the Apache isn't made any more and we're looking at a bigger house, I didn't want to cut the Apache's tubes down to fit the small size I need. I purchased the On Stage 3 tier stand for $100 from Musician's Friend.com and chopped its horizontal tubes. I used a miter saw to cut the tubes down from 48" to around 44". The dual 8 space rack I built from MDF and rack rails is being supported by 2 horizontal tubes, one on the front vertical leg and on on the rear. I have to be careful not to play to wildly on this stand because the custom rack I built is very heavy and rocks (no pun intended) when I bang on the keys.

The stand that my M-12, W-30 & VS is on is pretty much a stock On Stage Stand, but I chopped the horizontal tubes down to 44".
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Post by synthetic88 » Thu Sep 13, 2007 6:09 pm

Hey Z, can you talk a little more about the difference between the On-Stage, Pro Stack and that eBay one (Heavy Duty ASG)? Is one more sold than the other, do some have longer arms, do some have another tier for the back that you can rest a keyboard on, etc? The eBay/ASG seems to have an X-brace in the back that doesn't let you put another tier back there, where the On-Stage does. What else? There's probably not many people who have used all three. :)
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Post by Z » Thu Sep 13, 2007 7:38 pm

They're all use the same tubular construction, the main difference is they all have different ways they use the "T" connectors (connecting the horizontal and vertical tubes) and the size of the keyboard supports. You can get around the differences of the "T" connectors, but my main issue is with the size of the keyboard supports on the newer stands (On Stage & the one on eBay). These newere stands' keyboard supports are only around 12" deep which is acceptable for modern keyboards, but I have several older synths that are 16" - 20" deep. I have basically been taking the parts from several keyboard stands to make what I am using becasue of my specific needs.
It's too bad USS is no longer making their tubular stands. I'd keep checking the used market for anyone parting with these stands. I had never even heard of Pro Stack until I picked up that stand from a Craig's List ad. You'll notice on the bottom tier I have different keyboard supports for the OB-XA. I believe those are actually USS parts that I had bought in late 80's early 90's to use with my KMD stand. Keep checking the 'bay, I have seen used and NOS USS parts pop up from time to time.

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Post by crystalmsc » Fri Sep 14, 2007 9:54 am

Z: that minimoog is looking really good, is it customized? specially on top of those 2 synths.
in fact I like all the pics in this thread! pls keep posting that 3 tiers..
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Post by Z » Fri Sep 14, 2007 12:48 pm

I picked up the MINI a couple months ago. The guy I bought it from said its previous owner painted the wood black becasue everything in his studio had to be black. Other than the paint job, it's a stock Mini. I bought a buffer board upgrade (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0142256229) which I plan to have installed as soon as the instructions are sent to me by the seller. I posted a thread here right after buying the Mini if I should have any mods done to it - the general consensus is to leave it alone. I think I will at least refinish the wood since I have some experience with that. There are more photos of the Mini (and more of my gear) in my Photobucket:
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Post by crystalmsc » Fri Sep 14, 2007 1:22 pm

Z wrote:The guy I bought it from said its previous owner painted the wood black becasue everything in his studio had to be black. Other than the paint job, it's a stock Mini.
that looks great, I like it that way. so far the best Mini I've seen.
Z wrote:I bought a buffer board upgrade (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0142256229) which I plan to have installed as soon as the instructions are sent to me by the seller.
please post the result, I always interested with synth mod.
Z wrote:I think I will at least refinish the wood since I have some experience with that. There are more photos of the Mini (and more of my gear) in my Photobucket:
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Awesome! pls post more when you are done with the refinish job.
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