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Favourite "vintage" digital synths

Post by yburn » Wed Jul 11, 2007 2:53 pm

What are peoples favourite digital synths, I'm thinking mainly S+S or similar. I've seen the D50 mentioned a lot recently. I've only ever played and programmed a Korg Trinity in anger. I had a go on a SY85 which sounded nice but seemed to be nigh on un programmable. I also had a go on an M1 a long time ago and that seemed much the same. I think I just prefer monotimbral synths, I rarely use more than one voice on any synth due to poor FX implementations. Some of these synths are pretty cheap now but too old to just go to a shop and play.
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Post by Zonkout » Wed Jul 11, 2007 3:18 pm

I love the Casio CZ series. I also like what I have heard of the Ensoniq ESQ.
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Post by madtheory » Wed Jul 11, 2007 3:31 pm

Casio CZ-1
Korg M1
Roland D-50
Casio VZ-1

The SY-85 is a bit limited IMO, the M1 has more character in the samples. The software version is a vast improvement, and lets you use the cool effects externally. The D-50 is huge sounding but turn off that reverb (leave the lovely Roland chorus on!) and use a Lexicon or WHY; and both the Casios are pretty unique sounding.

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Post by clusterchord » Wed Jul 11, 2007 4:35 pm

vintage:

PPG Wave 2.0
Fairlight II-X

vintage (90s):

Roland JD990
Korg Wavestation
microwave

recent:

Kyma
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Post by megawatt » Wed Jul 11, 2007 5:07 pm

well +1 on the D50. What a huge sound.

I love the casio CZ series ttoo but it often sounds more analog than digital.
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Post by yburn » Wed Jul 11, 2007 5:27 pm

do the JD synths uses LA synthesis? I've seen it described as "analog like" which I assume means its subtractive synthesis osc > LPFs > amp, which is similar to LA. Is it even worth bothering with these synths or are there plugin versions that are comparable? I've used Atmosphere and although it had a massive sample library it didn't sound anywhere near as good as my old Trinity, I though it was actually quite boring bar a couple of patches.
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Post by clusterchord » Wed Jul 11, 2007 5:48 pm

JD series use subtractive digital. i e you get a ROM with PCM wave going thru filters and modifiers etc.

basic unit is "tone" - a PCM osc, multimode filter, 3envs, 2lfos, amp, sml matrix mod

however u are offered "structures" where you are allowed to combine two complete tones in various ways; for ex. 2osc going mixed into two routable filters (serial or parallel), also u can have a ring mod on one of the oscillators. both fiters are multimode, each with its own env, and mod matrix . each osc in this "pair" retains its pitch envelope too.
u can also do standard oscilolator sync, which yields interesting colours wehn used with some waves beyond the standard analog waveshapes.


one extra over JD800, that JD990 has is crossmodulation i.e. frequency modulating one osc with another. however, it can only do this monophonically. if in mutlimode, other parts (that arent set to crossmod) can still play in poly. unique sound.

ahh, almost forgot, yes it does have an "Analog Feel" paramter that sort of tries to emulate analog pitch drift. it does add nice animation and works great on some sund. but i woudlnt connect this to makin g it more "analog", jist more capable in its spcific snyhtesis domain.
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Post by mono/noise » Wed Jul 11, 2007 5:51 pm

Of what I have owned and tried it's a tie between the Casio CZ series and the ESQ-1, SQ-80.

I really love the PPG sound also and plan on picking up a Microwave 1 soon, it should get me pretty close.
Never really cared so much about the whole DX FM thingy.

The Prophet VS is interesting as well but the ultimate digital gear lust I have is the Synclavier, but I'm sure I will never even see one.
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Post by Computer Controlled » Wed Jul 11, 2007 5:56 pm

TX81Z/DX-100
ESQ-1/SQ-80
Casio CZ series

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Post by JUGEL » Wed Jul 11, 2007 6:27 pm

anyone know if the Synth PCM cards for the Korg M1 are worth picking up? Or the Orchestral card?

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Post by Bob-omb » Wed Jul 11, 2007 6:32 pm

Roland JD800/JD990. No doubt about it. Next comes Ensoniq ESQ-1/SQ80.

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Post by abrokenframe » Wed Jul 11, 2007 6:38 pm

dx7. i cant get enough of it
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Post by elmosexwhistle » Wed Jul 11, 2007 6:50 pm

DX11/V50 ie multitimbral FM synths...i love fm, and the ability to have up to 8 sounds at once across the board is an insane proposition :)

SY77/99 - the last yammie synth with FM in (excluding the FS1R) also the PCM waves are good, and you can really mess them up by cross modulating them with FM, i spend hours making patches on this baby :) the SY85 is a bit boring by comparison, more waverom but less power..

SQ80 - the samples on this baby are amazing, so grungy and lofi, it does pads, noise and percussive stuff especially well....plus, the real filter is a gorgeous bonus :)

Korg T1 - mega evolving soundscapes and plenty of tweakability

Casio CZ series - they do polished 80s sounds and noisy insanity particularly well :)

there ya tho, theyre my faves x

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Post by JUGEL » Wed Jul 11, 2007 6:59 pm

I'm suprised none of you dorks has mentioned the Kurzweil K2000.

This sample on sonicstate is very Black Dog "Bytes" to me ears.

K2000 early WARP
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