Brian Eno/Peter Gabriel pad sound (Dune soundtrack/Passion)

[portland]

We're talking about the David Lynch's 1984 version here. I'm wondering about the soundtrack... are the sounds in this just multitracked CS80 in a really nice recording studio, or what?

Specifically, in Brian Eno's Prophecy Theme, there is a pad sound which is very similar to pad sounds Peter Gabriel used Passion: Music For The Last Temptation of Christ. Listen at 2:30 in Of These, Hope from said album. Peter Gabriel's version isn't as modulated as Eno's, but there's obvious similarity.

I don't have the liner notes for it, but I think I recall seeing Prophet 5 and CS80 listed there (along with a lot of other expensive things...)

What are your thoughts on this. Has anyone tried to recreate these sounds before?

[vcs3]

I think that "Prophecy Theme" is one of the greatest theme of the synth era.
I always how and with the sounds where made, maybe a DX7 along the CS80 and Prophet 5?

[synthetic88]

Dune was scored by Toto, so probably CS80.

[portland]

I think that "Prophecy Theme" is one of the greatest theme of the synth era.
I always how and with the sounds where made, maybe a DX7 along the CS80 and Prophet 5?

It does sound like there are some FM sounds in prologue...

[filtermod]

Dune was scored by Toto.

are you serious?
I never would have guessed that one.

[c1t1zen]

Prophecy Theme is Brian Eno the other 16 are Toto ( great open guitar chords ) I remember that and Blade Runner having a big impact on my sonic pallette as a kid watching those movies. Also two of my favorite directors. I would think CS80 as stated above, could be some tape tricks,(record double speed played back regular speed) Eno was into that back then.

[i_watch_stars]

Jeez...CS80 fever sweeping the boards?

Brian Eno is one of the greatest synthesists of all time. This implies two things here; it is meaningless to ask what synth he used, and even if you use that exact synth, its doubtful that you could copy what he did.

[filtermod]

Jeez...CS80 fever sweeping the boards?

Brian Eno is one of the greatest synthesists of all time. This implies two things here; it is meaningless to ask what synth he used, and even if you use that exact synth, its doubtful that you could copy what he did.

Yep, Eno is phenominal, and part of what makes him so good is that he's not copying anything. (I know that's not what you were saying your post was just the impetus for my thought ) My random point here is that most of the synthesists that are truly great are the ones who push the boundaries with their tools. They create new sounds rather than trying to recreate things they have already heard. I once read that when Eno was working with Bowie, they would buy a new synth and throw out the manual, just diving in to see what they could do rather than trying to do what the synth was "supposed" to do. This is not to say that there isn't a lot to be learned by deconstructing an interesting sound, but rather to say that there is much satisfaction, and knowledge to be had through experimentation and innovation.

I'm sure everyone who reads this will be thinking "well yeah, DUH, ya stupid newbie"

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[mao]

There is a wonderful preset on the Kurzweil K2000 called "passion". A friend of mine years ago said "wow that's the peter gabriel one..." when he listen to it walking through the preset...

If you have an mp3 of the sound... i can compare it.

[steveman]

Never thought of any association between Eno and the CS80. 1983? Probably Prophet 5 and maybe DX7
As for Toto, probably everything and the kitchen sink (including the Vienna Symphony Orchestra).
Peter Gabriel was a big Fairlight user around then.

[tim gueguen]

Eno never owned a P5. Presumably he did use one belonging to someone like Jerry Harrison of the Talking Heads at some point. He apparently owned a Pro 1 in the early '80s, which he said he prefered to the P5 for its arpeggiator, and may have owned a Prophet VS in the early '90s, as I've seen footage of him with the latter. Eno did use a CS80 on Before and After Science, and I wouldn't be surprised if he used one elsewhere in that period.

[shaft9000]

PASSION - anyone not familiar with this s/track is sorely missing out. One of my favorite 3 s/tracks ever

re: pad sounds : the variance between the way Passion was recorded ("on location" in Africa to a degree iirc) and Dune ( in a modern early 80s studio )were recorded seem to be pretty wide. i suspect they arrived at similar results almost coincedentally. perhaps they both use cs80, but the audio signal path and context/environment used to record each did vary widely.

not much help, i'm afraid, i may even be way off.

Hopefully Micke or another member with solid info can chime in.

[Micke]

We're talking about the David Lynch's 1984 version here. I'm wondering about the soundtrack... are the sounds in this just multitracked CS80 in a really nice recording studio, or what?

Specifically, in Brian Eno's Prophecy Theme, there is a pad sound which is very similar to pad sounds Peter Gabriel used Passion: Music For The Last Temptation of Christ. Listen at 2:30 in Of These, Hope from said album. Peter Gabriel's version isn't as modulated as Eno's, but there's obvious similarity.

I don't have the liner notes for it, but I think I recall seeing Prophet 5 and CS80 listed there (along with a lot of other expensive things...)

What are your thoughts on this. Has anyone tried to recreate these sounds before?

I'm not sure what Brian Eno used on "The Prophecy theme" but I do know that Peter Gabriel used a Prophet 5 when recording "The Last Temptation Of Christ" (1989).

Here's a run down of the synths & samplers used in the making
of this soundtrack:

1) The Feeling Begins: synthesizers (sic)

2) Of These, Hope: Prophet 5

3) Lazarus Raised: Akai S900

4) Of These, Hope - Reprise: Prophet 5

5) In Doubt: Fairlight samples + Audioframe Waveframe

6) A Different Drum: Audioframe, Prophet 5

7) Zaar: Audiofram, Akai S900

8) Troubled: Fairlight, Emulator

9) Open: Prophet 5, Akai S900

10) With This Love: Prophet 5, Fairlight, Akai S900 and Waveframe

11) Sandstorm: Fairlight

12) Stigmata: Prophet 5

13) Passion: Prophet 5, Fairlight, Akai S900

14) Wall Of Breath: synthesizers (sic)

15) The Promise Of Shadows: Emulator, Prophet 5 and Audioframe

16) Disturbed: Fairlight, Prophet 5

17) It Is Accomplished: Roland D-50, Prophet 5

18) Bread And Wine: Prophet 5

Hope this helps

Micke

[urgetoplay]

Micke, Oh mighty guru, where did you pull this information? Like others on this list, the soundtrack is a favorite. There was also a second CD titled "Passion Sources" that showed where he pulled the inspiration for this work.

[i_watch_stars]

We're talking about the David Lynch's 1984 version here. I'm wondering about the soundtrack... are the sounds in this just multitracked CS80 in a really nice recording studio, or what?

Specifically, in Brian Eno's Prophecy Theme, there is a pad sound which is very similar to pad sounds Peter Gabriel used Passion: Music For The Last Temptation of Christ. Listen at 2:30 in Of These, Hope from said album. Peter Gabriel's version isn't as modulated as Eno's, but there's obvious similarity.

I don't have the liner notes for it, but I think I recall seeing Prophet 5 and CS80 listed there (along with a lot of other expensive things...)

What are your thoughts on this. Has anyone tried to recreate these sounds before?

I'm not sure what Brian Eno used on "The Prophecy theme" but I do know that Peter Gabriel used a Prophet 5 when recording "The Last Temptation Of Christ" (1989).

Here's a run down of the synths & samplers used in the making
of this soundtrack:

1) The Feeling Begins: synthesizers (sic)

2) Of These, Hope: Prophet 5

3) Lazarus Raised: Akai S900

4) Of These, Hope - Reprise: Prophet 5

5) In Doubt: Fairlight samples + Audioframe Waveframe

6) A Different Drum: Audioframe, Prophet 5

7) Zaar: Audiofram, Akai S900

8) Troubled: Fairlight, Emulator

9) Open: Prophet 5, Akai S900

10) With This Love: Prophet 5, Fairlight, Akai S900 and Waveframe

11) Sandstorm: Fairlight

12) Stigmata: Prophet 5

13) Passion: Prophet 5, Fairlight, Akai S900

14) Wall Of Breath: synthesizers (sic)

15) The Promise Of Shadows: Emulator, Prophet 5 and Audioframe

16) Disturbed: Fairlight, Prophet 5

17) It Is Accomplished: Roland D-50, Prophet 5

18) Bread And Wine: Prophet 5

Hope this helps

Micke

Proof?