Roland JX-3P versus Juno 106

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Post by Italo_DX » Sun Sep 16, 2007 6:48 pm

Right, the main theme was played on a Jupiter 8, the major key syncopated part on a JX-3P, and the synth-marimba part on a DX7.

Not sure about the bass, though.

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Post by Analogue Crazy » Sun Sep 16, 2007 7:22 pm

Here is the music video for Axel F:

You can clearly see a Jupiter, JX-3P and DX-7 from 1:22 onwards.
There is an excelent close up of the JX-3P at 2:36.
The JX-3P has the programmer with it.
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Post by MrFrodo » Sun Sep 16, 2007 8:08 pm

The JX3p doesn't have X-modulation or (supposedly) snappy envelopes, bu it does have 2 DCO's per voice, which I'll always find more seductive on an analog polysynth. If they'd opted to make the Juno synths with dual DCO's (or some internal pitch-shifting device), I'd find them more attractive.
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Post by radek tymecki » Sun Sep 16, 2007 8:36 pm

haricots wrote:according to wikipedia he used a Jupiter 8, JX-3P and a DX7.
Dont look on videoclips etc :)

For main lead and bass OB-Xa was used :)

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Post by OriginalJambo » Sun Sep 16, 2007 9:24 pm

MrFrodo wrote:The JX3p doesn't have X-modulation
Yes it does...well as stated in the manual anyway. There are three settings - off, sync and metal.

Technically these are types of cross modulation as one oscillator is modulating the other.

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Post by Micke » Sun Sep 16, 2007 10:02 pm

Regarding what synths were used for the main lead and bass on "Axel F": a guy on AH asked Faltermeyer about that when he bought one of his Synclaviers in Münich and was told "it was definitely a Jup 8".

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Post by MrFrodo » Sun Sep 16, 2007 10:05 pm

I thought Harold F. wrote the whole thing on a Synclavier. Does the S II have a samper in it like the Fairlight? He could sample Jupiter sounds.
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Post by Italo_DX » Sun Sep 16, 2007 10:21 pm

Here is a part of the soundtrack that is only in the movie. Is this the JX-3P or the Jupiter 8? This twangy, punchy sawtooth is
exactly the kind of sound I'd like to make on my next synth.

which synth.mp3 - 0.15MB

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Post by OriginalJambo » Sun Sep 16, 2007 10:55 pm

Italo_DX wrote:Here is a part of the soundtrack that is only in the movie. Is this the JX-3P or the Jupiter 8? This twangy, punchy sawtooth is
exactly the kind of sound I'd like to make on my next synth.

which synth.mp3 - 0.15MB
Well I gave this sort of sound a good shot with the JX-3P - sounds pretty close but not exact.

This what your are looking for more or less?

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Post by MrFrodo » Sun Sep 16, 2007 11:01 pm

I like how you played it.
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Post by OriginalJambo » Sun Sep 16, 2007 11:23 pm

MrFrodo wrote:I like how you played it.
You mean like "badly"? :P

I couldn't be arsed with a retake after I made the mistake.

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Post by Italo_DX » Sun Sep 16, 2007 11:32 pm

Thanks! That patch sounds great. :)

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Post by Micke » Mon Sep 17, 2007 12:47 am

MrFrodo wrote:I thought Harold F. wrote the whole thing on a Synclavier. Does the S II have a samper in it like the Fairlight? He could sample Jupiter sounds.

I don't think he started using a Synclavier until 1985 or 1986 (presumably a newer system with the lovely 76 key Velocity/Polyphonic aftertouch keyboard which appeared around mid 1984).
The Synclavier II didn't have sampling when it came out in 1980, however in 1982 16-bit (mono) sampling at up to 50Khz was added as an option.
A couple of years later, in '84 or '85, NED made the sampling polyphonic and upped the sample rate to 100Khz.
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Post by Analogue Crazy » Mon Sep 17, 2007 1:29 pm

This thread has now turned into the 'Axel F' debate. Back to the 106. 8)
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Post by Italo_DX » Mon Sep 17, 2007 2:49 pm

Agreed. I'd like to hear a back-to-back comparison of the Juno and JX on a similar patch sound such as the one above.

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