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DSI Prophet 8

Post by jplavidfan » Wed Sep 26, 2007 3:06 am

So is it too soon to ask our resident experts how the P8 compares to a PEK or MM Voyager? And what is the selling price to be? Also, I did not see availability, but I may have missed it.

The site has a lot of cool pages on it, but it is limited at this point when compared to his PEK or MEK.

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Re: DSI Prophet 8

Post by Postblank » Wed Sep 26, 2007 3:51 am

jplavidfan wrote:So is it too soon to ask our resident experts how the P8 compares to a PEK or MM Voyager? And what is the selling price to be? Also, I did not see availability, but I may have missed it.

The site has a lot of cool pages on it, but it is limited at this point when compared to his PEK or MEK.

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The selling price IS $1999 for the standard Prophet 8. The specialty edition costs a bit more.
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Post by crystalmsc » Wed Sep 26, 2007 4:07 am

the special edition selling price is $2449, Sweetwater got 'em.
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Post by jplavidfan » Wed Sep 26, 2007 4:11 am

That price seems reasonable.

Anyone get their fingers on one yet?

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Post by MrFrodo » Wed Sep 26, 2007 4:59 am

They should make a tabletop addition of this one, like the CreamWare Pro-12, the Vrus or the SuperNova.

I never did like the PER, because it doesn't have dedicated controllers like the PEK. If DSI makes a module Prophet 08, they SHOULD make it a tabletop module with gobs of knobs.
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Re: DSI Prophet 8

Post by Raiven » Wed Sep 26, 2007 5:32 am

jplavidfan wrote:So is it too soon to ask our resident experts how the P8 compares to a PEK or MM Voyager? And what is the selling price to be? Also, I did not see availability, but I may have missed it.

The site has a lot of cool pages on it, but it is limited at this point when compared to his PEK or MEK.

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It's in a whole other league than both. I've had a Voyager RME and a PEK. They are really not comparable in the context of the whole.

Feature wise, the P'08 sits in between them both. Just as flexible as a Voyager with 8X the polyphony or 4X the polyphony of a PEK but you loose some features.

It's really a matter of what you want to add in your setup.

A Bass, Leads, and FX synth (Voyager)

A giggable polysynth ( P'08 )

A different and versatile synth (PEK)
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Thanks, Raiven!

Post by jplavidfan » Wed Sep 26, 2007 5:51 am

I am seriously considering both a P8 and a Minimoog, not voyager.

Although, in the movie done right before he passed, Bob Moog was futzing with a Voyager, and I finally realized that there were some interesting features on the Voyager that he had supervised the development of.

Now I know there are a lot of Model D owners that swear the Voyager is thinner than the D, so I may buy a D first and see. They tend to be 1k less costly too.

Always wanted to own something that Mr. Smith designed as well. P8 seems like the deal.

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Re: Thanks, Raiven!

Post by Tex » Wed Sep 26, 2007 8:10 am

Quote "I am seriously considering both a P8 and a Minimoog, not voyager."

How sad, I'm confused by the drones who claim there to be significant differences between new and old. All of the sudden there's fanatical acclaim for a retro analog that employs smt technology when the drugged hype is about the benefits of decades old used c**p. Actually, Pek Is the better synth and guess what- both Pek and P08 employ smt tech and both sound fanastic. Time to abandon unfounded myths. P08 is great for 8 voices and for those who wouldn't know a great synth even if it slapped them in the face.

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Post by memo » Wed Sep 26, 2007 11:11 am

The best solution is to physically try the instruments out and see if you connect with them - one man's "intuitive" and "fat" is another man's "nightmare" and "muddy".

While sound, features, and usability are all important (and subjective), I find that usability is the most important, followed closely by sound, then by features.

If I really connect with an instrument, I can usually get around any limitations or sonic issues. But if I don't connect with the interface, then it doesn't matter if it sounds good or if it has a million features - I won't end up using it.

I chose a Minimoog D over a Voyager primarily because I really connect with it. They're close in layout, sound (although you have to do a bit of tracking programming to get the Voyager's resonance to match the Minimoog, and the model D has more harmonic distortion), and the Voyager is a million times more versatile, but the model D just connected with me.

Others play the D and aren't impressed at all - they don't connect with it - or they don't understand why someone wouldn't want the additional features of the Voyager. No one is wrong per se - connecting with an instrument is totally personal.

I'm borrowing a friends Prophet '08 soon, and I'm going to make a video demonstration once I can. It might not be the same as physically being there, but I think a well-made demonstration video can bring a viewer closer to feeling the interface and workflow than subjective remarks.
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Post by kayvon » Wed Sep 26, 2007 4:09 pm

memo wrote:I chose a Minimoog D over a Voyager primarily because I really connect with it. They're close in layout, sound (although you have to do a bit of tracking programming to get the Voyager's resonance to match the Minimoog,
<Thread hijack> Can you elaborate on this? I remember reading somewhere that on a Mini there's less resonance on the bass end compared to the top. Do you do something like keytrack>resonance in minus amounts?

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Post by MrFrodo » Wed Sep 26, 2007 4:29 pm

Right, this thread isn't supposed to be another stinkin' "Model-D-Vs.-Voyager" topic. Let's try and focus on the P08.

I just hope there'll be one in Guitar Center the next time I visit it.
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Re: Thanks, Raiven!

Post by neandrewthal » Wed Sep 26, 2007 4:42 pm

Tex wrote:How sad, I'm confused by the drones who claim there to be significant differences between new and old.
And also how sad how there is a site dedicated to letting people discuss and learn about this decades old used c**p called Vintage Synth Explorer. I say if we could get that offending site taken off the web all this retro hype nonsense would fade in no time at all.
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Post by DIGITAL SCREAMS » Wed Sep 26, 2007 6:29 pm

Check out a new prophet 08 video here >

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Post by kayvon » Thu Sep 27, 2007 12:57 am

MrFrodo wrote:Right, this thread isn't supposed to be another stinkin' "Model-D-Vs.-Voyager" topic. Let's try and focus on the P08.

I just hope there'll be one in Guitar Center the next time I visit it.
I wasn't trying to turn into a model-D vs Voyager thread. Just asking a brief question that doesn't call for a new thread.

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