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monosynths
thread inspired by the p08 vs moog thread
so, i have two of em and love em both, and i was trying to explain the appeal to a piano schooled friend of mine.
he just wasn't getting it.
to me, its nearly as different as organ to synth in the first place. it requires a different approach to playing and fitting into a band, and a far different approach to sound programming.
i also find them almost liberating in a way. they seem sometimes like more of a real instrument...ya know? maybe i'm nuts, but sometimes i feel like a polyphonic polytimbral board does more than i need to express myself.
i'm likely nuts.
so, i have two of em and love em both, and i was trying to explain the appeal to a piano schooled friend of mine.
he just wasn't getting it.
to me, its nearly as different as organ to synth in the first place. it requires a different approach to playing and fitting into a band, and a far different approach to sound programming.
i also find them almost liberating in a way. they seem sometimes like more of a real instrument...ya know? maybe i'm nuts, but sometimes i feel like a polyphonic polytimbral board does more than i need to express myself.
i'm likely nuts.
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hey, whats better than roses on your piano?smallsynth wrote:yeah... that makes sense. i tell people the same: i'm a synth player; not a piano player.
of course, now i play the organ, too.
i feel so corrupted.
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(think about it. it is pretty profound.)
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I'm a piano player and I love monosynths. It's just another way of expressing yourself after the dohnanyi studies and haydn! I think a lot of piano players probably appreciate what you can and cannot do on monosynths if they're into synth/electronic music.
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I was'nt that into monosynths until recently (had mostly poly's) and i guess with the loss of polyphony, you really concentrate on the 'hook'( maybe not the right word, but closest i can think of right now), paring down and really focus on tweaking/ manipulation of the character of the signal, as opposed to the more poly-rhythmic and cacophonous modes of piano composition.
The inability of most mono's to play/mimic chords is major. And the importance and ability of detuning/harmonic shifting of oscillators is also large point of divergence unless your John Cage, etc.
I have these conversations once and a while as well and i think in a lot of ways its apples and oranges, but to most- 'they all have black and white keys right?'...
I have a friend who I've played noise w/ off and on for years and loves mangling/beating the f**k out a tune, but when i showed him the Mono/Poly (which even has 4 note polyphony!!!) he outright refused after a few minutes, frustrated at the fact that it did'nt play at least 16 notes... I think the word he used was 'unacceptable'.
The inability of most mono's to play/mimic chords is major. And the importance and ability of detuning/harmonic shifting of oscillators is also large point of divergence unless your John Cage, etc.
I have these conversations once and a while as well and i think in a lot of ways its apples and oranges, but to most- 'they all have black and white keys right?'...
I have a friend who I've played noise w/ off and on for years and loves mangling/beating the f**k out a tune, but when i showed him the Mono/Poly (which even has 4 note polyphony!!!) he outright refused after a few minutes, frustrated at the fact that it did'nt play at least 16 notes... I think the word he used was 'unacceptable'.
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Sounds like the friend is stuck in his way of working and doesn't want to compromise... nothing wrong with that as long as you are content. I'm the same way, except that I only use monos.brian.only wrote: I have a friend who I've played noise w/ off and on for years and loves mangling/beating the f**k out a tune, but when i showed him the Mono/Poly (which even has 4 note polyphony!!!) he outright refused after a few minutes, frustrated at the fact that it did'nt play at least 16 notes... I think the word he used was 'unacceptable'.
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my favorite synth (the FR-777) is a monosynth....
but I'll confess, if I could have a polyphonic 777 (of probably at least 6 voices) I'd hit for it in a heart beat. As stands, there's been numerous times that I've taken samples from the 777 and estabilished smooth looping points simply so I could then bring them into a sampler for use in polyphonic manners.
I mean I don't get it, a poly can act as a mono, but not the other way around.
I'd take poly over mono any day of the week....you simply have more options at your disposal that way.
but I'll confess, if I could have a polyphonic 777 (of probably at least 6 voices) I'd hit for it in a heart beat. As stands, there's been numerous times that I've taken samples from the 777 and estabilished smooth looping points simply so I could then bring them into a sampler for use in polyphonic manners.
I mean I don't get it, a poly can act as a mono, but not the other way around.
I'd take poly over mono any day of the week....you simply have more options at your disposal that way.