I want a Waldorf synth? which one?

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Post by Mpresev » Mon Oct 22, 2007 6:32 pm

can I get one for 250.00 - $300.00? that's the market price now?

see I have the Virus A. Do they both sound similar? because if they are there is no point getting one(let's leave the TB303 sounds aside) Thanks.. I also have the ION but I use that mainly for bass and HP filtered synths(because they sound tough)..

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Post by clusterchord » Mon Oct 22, 2007 6:39 pm

my favorite wadorf bar none is microwave. and indeed it can find its way into music genres u named. it is punchy, quik, and has a really great silky filter. doin filter sweeps via controllers over an apeggiated or XoX style sequence with a brighter metallic wavetable selected, gotta be heard to be believed. gritty wavetables into analog filter. perfect.


i had pulse on two ocassions, and im not exactly a fan. deep, technoid machine-gun bass, only a dco with lightnin fast env can provide - it does that with flyin colours. but dont expect anything moogish from its "moog" filter, as its much thinner and harsher. this, paired with its dcos (that i really found shrill when it goes into high range), makes it pretty much impossible to create anything fuzzy warm fat etc you'd come to expect from an old-style vco mono. not that it hasnt other, great uses.

i really dig its perfect accurate arpeggiator, whe u use short perc sounds w 3 osc with pwm and do slo filter sweeps, its very nice. these plucked and snappy sounds are just short enough that its inherent oscillator nature gets masked. i really dig it for this. but no classic bass or leads.

in the end a nice board, but i hadnt enough uses for it. ymmv.
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Post by carbon111 » Mon Oct 22, 2007 6:48 pm

The Microwave XT definately! 44 knobs make programming it a dream and nothing else out there sounds anything like it from mellow pads to rough leads, the XT puts its uniquely wonderful stamp on them all. :love:

The 4-pole LP is more squelchy than filters on most VAs I've heard and the Waveshaper filter will rip your face off.

Plenty of info, wavetables, downloads, workshops and tutorials here:

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Post by Mpresev » Mon Oct 22, 2007 6:48 pm

hey you,

how much are the microwaves these days?

there are no available PUlse synths on craigslist in Los Angeles right now.

DOn't get me wrong I love my equip and I use it all the time. I just like the name brand "Waldorf."

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Post by carbon111 » Mon Oct 22, 2007 6:56 pm

I've seen the XTs go for around $500-700, the keyboard version for around $900-1100.
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Post by Mpresev » Tue Oct 23, 2007 12:08 am

Thanks Carbon. Oh I forgot about these synths XT. I was talking about how much is the Microwave 1 or 2. I like the look of the XT though.. THe sounds are not from this world. I do like the idea of the PULSE as it can create basses and I hear it's a work horse. I LOVE BASSES. Can the PULSE basses sound as good as the ION? Quite frankly to be realistic all I really need to create an album is my Virus A. I'm on my 6th track and I don't know why I want a Waldorf. What's the obsession with synthesizers anyway?



carbon111 wrote:The Microwave XT definately! 44 knobs make programming it a dream and nothing else out there sounds anything like it from mellow pads to rough leads, the XT puts its uniquely wonderful stamp on them all. :love:

The 4-pole LP is more squelchy than filters on most VAs I've heard and the Waveshaper filter will rip your face off.

Plenty of info, wavetables, downloads, workshops and tutorials here:

http://www.carbon111.com/mwxt.html

I've written a quick intro here:

http://www.carbon111.com/xt_intro.html

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Post by carbon111 » Tue Oct 23, 2007 12:26 am

The MWXT and the MW2 have the same OS, the XT just has more knobs.

The only thing about the MW1 that was nice was the fact that it was a real analog filter...but you were stuck with 24db/oct and it was just a standard CEM filter (CEM 3389)...other than that, its a PITA and limited.
I've had three Microwave1s over the years and ended up getting rid of them all, partly because the UI is one of the worst ever (the one on the XT is very nice) and partly because I was able to dial-in the MW1 sound with no problem via the use of the "quality" and "saturation type" params on the XT. The MW1 is nowhere near as flexible as the MW2/XT in terms of programming either. I've been able to get a massive spectrum of sounds from the XT ranging from very warm analog-type pads to cold morphing wavetable-swept leads.

YMMV of course...each to his own taste.
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Post by calyx93 » Tue Oct 23, 2007 3:10 am

Oh, c'mon James. The first Microwave isn't that much of a PITA to use (Worst ever? Try a TX81Z), especially if you use an editing app. It does have its own sound and merits, and does sound different to the latter models despite the parameters the II/XT has to make it sound like its predecessors - it shouldn't just be dismissed due to its native inteface. There are plenty of ways around that. Another bonus is the ability to overdrive the amplifier which, as you probably know, can result in a distortion that the II/XT cannot really deliver - and it has the rarely spoken of "speech robot" engine not found in its successors - sure the speech wavetables exist in the II/XT, but not the ability to custom program them.

As with all the PPG/Waldorf wavetable synths, each model had its own particulars that made it special in its own way. I think you'll find just as many users praising each one as well as detractors of them.

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Post by carbon111 » Tue Oct 23, 2007 5:27 am

Eh.

I want to like the MW1...I've had three of them. But I just don't think the sacrifices and trade-offs are worth the 3389.

The FS1R has a worse UI than the MW1 as well...Yamaha could use some help :lol:

Don't mind me, I'm just a grouch :evil: :wink:
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Post by crystalmsc » Tue Oct 23, 2007 7:07 am

Mpresev wrote:I like the look of the XT though.. THe sounds are not from this world.

It should, it's a Waldorf :wink:
Mpresev wrote:I do like the idea of the PULSE as it can create basses and I hear it's a work horse. I LOVE BASSES. Can the PULSE basses sound as good as the ION?
sure, and in some cases much better than the ION which I also like. Specially for a more aggressive, industrial sounding basses.
Mpresev wrote:Quite frankly to be realistic all I really need to create an album is my Virus A. I'm on my 6th track and I don't know why I want a Waldorf.
May be because of both was designed to compliment each other from the beginning by those TSI guys :wink: but personally I also feel that both will make a nice pair, that the Pulse will surely add character to an all Virus track.
Mpresev wrote:What's the obsession with synthesizers anyway? :wink:

to at least have one Waldorf :lol:
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Post by Track2 » Tue Oct 23, 2007 11:42 am

To my ears the XT sounds much fuller in the mix thatn the Ion at the low frequencies.

The XT can be very punchy and have immense presence- If you love basses also check out the supernova 2- insane low frequency punch and clarity
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Post by Entropy Farmer » Tue Oct 23, 2007 7:09 pm

I love my XT nearly as much as my SQ-80. I made this really nice sound that was clarinetish on the high end and tuba-like on the low end that, with a flick of the modwheel, turned into 8 dimensional h**l. Lovely instrument.

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Post by crow » Tue Oct 23, 2007 10:04 pm

" Quite frankly to be realistic all I really need to create an album is my Virus A. I'm on my 6th track and I don't know why I want a Waldorf. What's the obsession with synthesizers anyway? "

Well bang mah arse like Quasimodo bangs.
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Post by Dane_Xoth » Sun Nov 04, 2007 8:27 am

My Waldorf Attack arrived in the post just the other day, and i happened to score an microWave XT earlier in the day.

:D :D

Tomorrow is my first day off work since the aquistions....
I'm giddy!
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Post by burnt toast » Sun Nov 04, 2007 1:57 pm

Dane_Xoth wrote:My Waldorf Attack arrived in the post just the other day, and i happened to score an microWave XT earlier in the day.

:D :D

Tomorrow is my first day off work since the aquistions....
I'm giddy!
nice...

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