2500$ for Odyssey, 1100$ for Axxe

Jexus · Post by **Jexus** » Sat Oct 27, 2007 5:09 pm

Automatic Gainsay wrote: Why is it that so many aren't taking the "logical" route?

I KNOW, I KNOW!!! UNLEASHED EMOTIONS!!!!!!!!

Post by **Jack Spider** » Sat Oct 27, 2007 5:12 pm

MitchK1989 wrote:I don't want to start a software vs hardware war, but for me personally, I'd be much happier throwing down $150 for Gmedia's oddity... And spending the rest on an MEK, a good midi controller, and some effect plugins...

Seems to me that choice would give a lot more "bang for the buck".

The thing is though, Mitch - buying vintage synths is never about bang-for-buck. When people pay that much for an instrument, it isn't about what it can do, it's about what it means to them on a personal level. In these cases, an emulation simply isn't good enough - and by this, I don't mean the quality of the sound.

On this subject as a whole, I've always believed that something is only too expensive if you don't want it enough.

MitchK1989 · Post by **MitchK1989** » Sat Oct 27, 2007 5:40 pm

that's true. I dunno, as a poor university student I'm forced to actually care more about the music and less about the gear, haha. I suppose if you already have everything you "need" to make your music, then you're free to spend on wants... but as it is I still don't have real studio monitors and my only plugins are the ones that came with logic express (which are actually very good, especially ES2...)

But if you're at the stage of just wanting a vintage synth for some reason... I guess you'd be willing to pay the price. I have no lust for old gear.

OriginalJambo · Post by **OriginalJambo** » Sat Oct 27, 2007 6:26 pm

AG man - I was just joking. I found it quite amusing that Bob chose to name his final synth using the term "Phat" when we all know what Moogs are renown for.

I wonder what Bob's definition of "Phat" was...:-k

Automatic Gainsay · Post by **Automatic Gainsay** » Sat Oct 27, 2007 6:31 pm

OriginalJambo wrote:

AG man - I was just joking. I found it quite amusing that Bob chose to name his final synth using the term "Phat" when we all know what Moogs are renown for.

I wonder what Bob's definition of "Phat" was...:ponder:

Oh, that. Ha ha, I'm an idiot. Yeah, I try not to think about that.

celebutante · Post by **celebutante** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 7:08 pm

Just throwing this out...

In the realm of analog monosynths, there are a LOT of options in new gear these days. So even though some of the old stuff has great nostalgia/"neato" value, there isn't much you can't cover between new Moogs, modular and euro-exotic synths. I know lots of folks are scared of modulars, but you don't need to get a huge one, and you can get a pretty nice system for the $2000 people are trying to sell Odyssey's/Minis/CS-30's etc. You can plug it up just a like hardwired synth and never change it if you like.

For me, the real tragedy of mad inflation is stuff that doesn't have current equivalents... mainly the early analog polysynths, i.e OB-X's, Jupiters, Prophets (I'm still on the fence about the '08, and I haven't really A/B'd Andromedas with older synths).

JSRockit · Post by **JSRockit** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 7:31 pm

MitchK1989 wrote:that's true. I dunno, as a poor university student

Get a job hippy.

CZ Rider · Post by **CZ Rider** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 4:29 am

What is a 2600 worth then? Here is an auction just ended for over $10,000.00. I think I would go for a Moog modular at that price.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ARP-2600-synthesize ... 0166916699

Automatic Gainsay · Post by **Automatic Gainsay** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 6:23 am

CZ Rider wrote:What is a 2600 worth then? Here is an auction just ended for over $10,000.00. I think I would go for a Moog modular at that price.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ARP-2600-synthesize ... 0166916699

:::gapes::::

Okay, let me say this: I've had my 2600 for several months, now. I can tell you that it is hands-down the most powerful vintage analog synth I've ever used, that it creates desireable sounds at every turn (for my taste AND, I would imagine, the tastes of people who are doing more "modern" electronic music). It is a jaw dropping experience at every turn. Mine has the Moog-ripoff filter, and while it does not sound like a Moog, it definitely has a gorgeously rich sound that wouldn't be had without this filter. Talking about it makes me salivate. I have dreams about playing it.
I now go to it more than I go to my Minimoog. Yes, I said it. Some of you should know what that means.

All of that being said: $10,000 is completely insane. That is not a reasonable price if reasonable equals "fitting in the relative price notch that the 2600 usually sits in in comparison to other high end synths."
I understand why the ARP 2600 is among the most expensive non-fully-modular synths... that position exists because it is simply among the most versatile AND best sounding synth designs ever. That being said, $10,000 is just nuts. That's MORE expensive than some Moog modulars go for!

I paid $3400 for mine, and although I think they are now going for closer to $4000 (although I can't tell... there were a LOT of 2600s for sale awhile ago, now there only seems to be one... whose picture is THE SAME as the 10,000 one... I smell scam), mine was definitely worth that amount of money. If you're going for functionality and sound, you can't do a whole lot better (non-modular) than this thing, so it should have a high price.

So, I'd say between $3400-$4000, although that's irritatingly broad.

RobotHeroes · Post by **RobotHeroes** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 7:47 am

CZ Rider wrote:What is a 2600 worth then? Here is an auction just ended for over $10,000.00. I think I would go for a Moog modular at that price.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ARP-2600-synthesize ... 0166916699

Bloody h**l. I was watching that auction too. 10K? Someone in the Los Angeles area just sold one on craigslist for 1,500 or 1,600. It sold so fast my email didn't even get a response so that I could offer them my old Toyota Camry.

minime123 · Post by **minime123** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 2:40 pm

you know what causes synth price inflation? people calling attention to auctions like this one. enjoy yourselves....

minime123 · Post by **minime123** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 2:48 pm

wow, heres one for only a little over 1k....

http://cgi.ebay.com/arp-2600-cms-upgrad ... dZViewItem

gotta love ebay!

Automatic Gainsay · Post by **Automatic Gainsay** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 5:10 pm

minime123 wrote:you know what causes synth price inflation? people calling attention to auctions like this one. enjoy yourselves....

Ha ha ha, you crack me up, Minime ol' fellow.

Automatic Gainsay · Post by **Automatic Gainsay** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 5:12 pm

minime123 wrote:wow, heres one for only a little over 1k....

http://cgi.ebay.com/arp-2600-cms-upgrad ... dZViewItem

gotta love ebay!

My question is... why aren't YOU of all people bidding on that to resell it?

Something is fishy about it, I think.

neandrewthal · Post by **neandrewthal** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 5:29 pm

Looks to me like it could be a hijacked account. For one the seller wants questions forwarded to his e-mail address, not through ebay, as far as I can tell he hasn't bought or sold anything else music related and his other auctions never list an e-mail address.

2500$ for Odyssey, 1100$ for Axxe

SUBMIT DAMMIT!

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