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Post by Automatic Gainsay » Sat Nov 03, 2007 4:06 am

Synth synth synthy synth!

I like all of your synths! Everyone has nice synths!

I think it's interesting how many of us have big horrible analog nightmares, and nice crisp digital recording systems to record them with. Ha ha!

Regarding monitors:
What are they for?
1. To portray what is actually happening in your mix
or
2. To portray what your audience is going to hear?

Look, I'd love to have a monitor setup that would accurately portray every frequency present in what I do... however... I think that sort of arrangement is far more expensive than I can afford, no matter what synths I have. It is far LESS expensive and troublesome, etc. just to listen to listen to each mix in a number of places and be happy with the average.
Let's face it some of us are analog synth nuts, and some of us are some other kind of nuts, and some of us are fidelity nuts. Some of us are not going to understand the motives and aesthetic of some of the other of us because we come from different tribes.
I personally understand the desire to have amazing monitors, and to have high-fidelity sound... but as an analog nut, quality of sound is more important to me than purity of sound. I would much rather record my ARP 2600 through its speakers with the hissy reverb all the way up for that QUALITY of sound than I would like to have it disassembled, re-opamped, and recorded into some extremely high-end system, for the purity, etc.
At the end of the day, listeners are going to like the music or not. They probably won't know if the mix was generated with an excellent, expensive, high-end monitoring system... just like they won't be able to tell whether the synth is a Mini or a Yamaha PSS-etc.
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We obsess over the details because these are the things we love.

Did that mention enough synths so as not to be OT? I don't want to fuel anyone's fire, I was just hoping to bridge some gaps! :D
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Post by Zamise » Sat Nov 03, 2007 4:47 am

Yoozer wrote:
edit: Zamise, I think it'd be a good idea to re-host those pictures on an image host or something, unless the VSE bandwidth suddenly got a second wind.
Hey Yoozer, sounds like a good idea, but my thoughts was to conserve bandwidth by putting them all in one spot so we don't have to refresh 100 times to see them all. If its actually taking more bandwidth, it is getting quite long, I don't know. If it becomes bad news I can edit it down to a link somewhere if Admin Okays someone else to host the page or something like that, and Mods can always edit too if its a problem. I've been using a editor called UltraEdit to do colum/verticle cut-n-pasting of VSF's source code and tags if it helps anyone else out who may want to grab the .jpgs and put them in bbc or html code for posting elsewhere.
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Post by Zamise » Sat Nov 03, 2007 12:50 pm

neandrewthal wrote:So it appears the most popular synths on VSE are:

MS-20
Phatty
Minimoog
Andy
PS-3100

Did I miss any?(needs at least 3 shown to make the list.)
Korg ESX1 counted 3
Yamaha AN1X counted 3

*Some pics may have been added since your post
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Post by Yoozer » Sat Nov 03, 2007 12:59 pm

sizzlemeister wrote:How many hits did these babies help mix?
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Post by Jexus » Mon Nov 05, 2007 8:14 am

i cannot find 'orbital decay' member in the list
who is it ?

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Post by CZ Rider » Mon Nov 05, 2007 1:49 pm

Jexus wrote:i cannot find 'orbital decay' member in the list
who is it ?
Sorry for the confusion, that would be me. My band is Orbital Decay, a spacemusic project in the Philly area. Tough to tell what is in the fisheye photo I posted of the current studio setup, since it is a small pic. Here is a larger one.
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Circling around there is a Oberheim two-voice, on top of a CS-15, and an OB-1 on the bottom. Submixer and SEM between the next rack with a Rogue on top of a Prodigy with a Pro-one underneath. Across the room starts the live setup I pull out from time to time. On top is an Arp Odyssey, an MS-20 and Indigo 2, below is an Atari STE. Next is a Voyager on top of a NED Synclacier 2. The computer for the Sync2 and a PC sitts below. Next a PS-3100 on top of the main mixer and FX units. Next is the desk with Event Tria monitors, (Proper?) And far in the corner is a large modular system including Roland 100M, Minimoog/modular with MOTM and a sequencer rack with 2 Dotcom 960's. Plus a bit of other stuff! Sometimes there are jams where we just circle the room going from synth to synth. Lots of room to experement. :wink:

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Post by carbon111 » Tue Nov 06, 2007 3:15 am

That is pure gear sweetness, CZ!
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Post by justin_havu » Tue Nov 06, 2007 4:34 am

CZ, Just curious. How reliable is that Synclavier unit?
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Post by CZ Rider » Tue Nov 06, 2007 5:19 am

justin_havu wrote:CZ, Just curious. How reliable is that Synclavier unit?
Well,so far it has been great! (Knock on the mahogany wood!) I did a little work to it when I first found the unit. This one is the Tony Banks model, 16 voice FM/additive, plays resynthesis disks, but without the mono sampler option, can't roll my own. :( I believe the original sampler option was not that reliable. My system boots off a 5 1/4" floppy drive. There is a large shoe-box containing the ABLE CPU. I found a few Shugart 410 floppy drives on the bay for around $20.00 each, this would be the most vulnerable part in the system to fail.
I have played out live several concerts this year with the Sync 2, so it has not let me down once. Probably the most head turning piece of gear I own. Well seasoned gear-heads give that a double take when I bring it out. Here it is out live the past April at the Stars End 30th Anniversary Spacemusic Festival. Along with some other vintage gear: a Two-voice and an MS-20. No use having these if I can't play them out! :wink:
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