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The Nord sound- opinions?

Post by Soundwave » Tue Nov 06, 2007 4:18 pm

I’ve been tinkering a lot with my newish G1 modular but I’m still undecided whether I like the sound or not.
I think Clavia have been clever to try and rid the sound of any digital side effects which gives a very rich smooth tone especially in the lower mid/bass area but I can’t feel its lacking a little aggression somewhere.

I love the rich pads and wacky FX but I’m really struggling to get something edgy and nasty with it.

I also keep asking myself is there really anything here that I couldn’t get from my trusty Monomachine tho I’m reluctant to get rid so soon as there’s so much you can do with it and that I’m only just scratching the surface.

What do you folks think of the Nord sound?

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Post by wiss » Tue Nov 06, 2007 4:26 pm

I thought the G1 sounded a h**l of a lot better than the nord lead. From my understanding the G1 sounds better than the nord lead 2 as well.

try downloading the 1,000 plus patches from thier website for the g1. find a sound that is close to what your looking for and desgin patches from that to meet your sonic needs.
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Post by Synthprophet » Tue Nov 06, 2007 4:52 pm

I think you got one of the best edgy and gritty VA's whatever Nordlead you have :wink:
So far the Nords are my favourite synths. I have an NL2x myself. Not only is it the best sounding VA I also have alot easier to get the sound I want from it. Sometimes I wished it could sound a little more fat, but it doesn't really bother me, it just adds some more to it's screamy sound.
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Post by severen » Tue Nov 06, 2007 5:14 pm

i like g1 sound. it's sharp and clean.

you can try :)
http://www.clavia.se/main.asp?tm=Produc ... Modular_G2
g2 demo




oh has the g1 get yet?
sorry.
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Post by filtermod » Tue Nov 06, 2007 5:14 pm

I have a nord lead2 and I tend to use it for biting, screaming sounds and squealie FM shrieks. I've never really thought of it as smooth or analog sounding at all, but I think it does crispy, cutting and bright exceptionally well. a lot of the sounds I use it for end up having a very nasal quality to them. I tend to gravitate towards the nord when I need a sound to cut through a busy mix.

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Re: The Nord sound- opinions?

Post by GeneralBigbag » Tue Nov 06, 2007 7:12 pm

Soundwave wrote: I love the rich pads and wacky FX but I’m really struggling to get something edgy and nasty with it.

I also keep asking myself is there really anything here that I couldn’t get from my trusty Monomachine tho I’m reluctant to get rid so soon as there’s so much you can do with it and that I’m only just scratching the surface.

What do you folks think of the Nord sound?
I've occasionally had thought about swapping the G1 for a MnM, but then I realize that it would be utterly insane (although I probably will get a MnM eventually to keep my MD company).

The raw sounds of the Nord's oscillators and filters are extremely pleasing to my ears (having gone through a uKorg, Micron, uQ along the way), I've been able to get FM-d filter sounds out of it that are in the same vein as what I can do w/ the Sherman (not nearly so vital, but much more raw than digital often sounds).

Here's the other thing to remember. Make a sound. Then make some sort of custom distortion process for it. That will make it plenty edgy.

PM me and I could send you some patches if you're interested.
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Post by Soundwave » Tue Nov 06, 2007 7:53 pm

Nice one man :wink: I've been experimenting a lot with the distortions, amplifiers, wavewrappers ect but any help would be greatly appreciated thanks. :) The presets really don't explore the extreame in any way.

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Post by carbon111 » Tue Nov 06, 2007 8:04 pm

This is a supremely useful programming guide for the original Nord Modular:

http://www.cim.mcgill.ca/~clark/nordmod ... k_toc.html

...and in PDF format:

http://www.cim.mcgill.ca/~clark/nordmod ... arbook.pdf
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Re: The Nord sound- opinions?

Post by AlanC » Tue Nov 06, 2007 8:25 pm

Soundwave wrote:...a very rich smooth tone especially in the lower mid/bass area...
I'd have called it pretty much the opposite: very clean and cutting, somewhat lacking in low-end beef and it doesn't blend particularly well with other synths - it tends to stand out. The G2 is similar but with less of an edge.

Not a sound I particularly like, but the darned things are incredibly versatile: particularly good for weird noises, as drum machines or vocoders.

In comparison to the Nord Leads I thought it was generally reckoned the G1 sounded more like the Lead / Lead 2 while the G2 was like the Lead 3. But what do I know - I've never touched a Nord Lead... :wink:

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Post by Soundwave » Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:47 pm

carbon111 wrote:This is a supremely useful programming guide for the original Nord Modular:

http://www.cim.mcgill.ca/~clark/nordmod ... k_toc.html

...and in PDF format:

http://www.cim.mcgill.ca/~clark/nordmod ... arbook.pdf
many thanks :wink:

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Post by carbon111 » Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:54 pm

Soundwave wrote:
carbon111 wrote:This is a supremely useful programming guide for the original Nord Modular:

http://www.cim.mcgill.ca/~clark/nordmod ... k_toc.html

...and in PDF format:

http://www.cim.mcgill.ca/~clark/nordmod ... arbook.pdf
many thanks :wink:
No problem. All the patches from the book are downloadable, too :D
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Post by i_watch_stars » Wed Nov 07, 2007 12:06 am

I'll tell you exactly what I think of the "Nord sound"....


I just got the Nord Rack 2X two weeks ago, and have thuroughly explored the synth, which isn't hard to do since it is one of the simplest synths I have next to perhaps the MKS-50 and JP-8080.

I've heard all of this hullabaloo about the "Nord sound" and the "biting digital noises" etc, etc. To me, the raw oscs of the Nord sounds like a normal VA with a EQ gain on the high end...nothing really unique in my opinion. All this stuff about it sounding "raw"...anything will sound raw without the effects; sounds like any other VA with the effects turned off. The filter is extremely digital, and it behaves horribly at high resonance values (it cuts out a lot of the sound in the high end for some reason). However its filter can be used specifically if you want that sound and can be heard all over The Crystal Method's Vegas for example (I can't really describe it, some sort of stepping effect).

The only thing of merit that I found in my Nord is it has a really good FM and ring algorithms. They sound really chaotic and...different. The FM especially seems to be turned "up to 11". If I use the synth for anything specific it will be for FM and ring sounds, which I use with abundance.

I don't know about the modular models, but the Lead models don't sound fat at all. The unison is weak. I had to pull out every trick in the book to make it sound as fat as my other VA synths. Compared to real analog unison sounds....well there is no comparison. The synced noise is weaksauce...essentially a wave selector of crappy sounding waves.

I'm still trying to decide whether I want to sell the synth, or just use it as a one trick pony. Its quite expensive for what you get and my GAS is still going...I suppose I'll keep it because what it does, it does quite well when you want that (digital filter sounds, FM and ring).
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Post by Soundwave » Wed Nov 07, 2007 12:35 am

i_watch_stars wrote:I'll tell you exactly what I think of the "Nord sound"....


I just got the Nord Rack 2X two weeks ago, and have thuroughly explored the synth, which isn't hard to do since it is one of the simplest synths I have next to perhaps the MKS-50 and JP-8080.

I've heard all of this hullabaloo about the "Nord sound" and the "biting digital noises" etc, etc. To me, the raw oscs of the Nord sounds like a normal VA with a EQ gain on the high end...nothing really unique in my opinion. All this stuff about it sounding "raw"...anything will sound raw without the effects; sounds like any other VA with the effects turned off. The filter is extremely digital, and it behaves horribly at high resonance values (it cuts out a lot of the sound in the high end for some reason). However its filter can be used specifically if you want that sound and can be heard all over The Crystal Method's Vegas for example (I can't really describe it, some sort of stepping effect).

The only thing of merit that I found in my Nord is it has a really good FM and ring algorithms. They sound really chaotic and...different. The FM especially seems to be turned "up to 11". If I use the synth for anything specific it will be for FM and ring sounds, which I use with abundance.

I don't know about the modular models, but the Lead models don't sound fat at all. The unison is weak. I had to pull out every trick in the book to make it sound as fat as my other VA synths. Compared to real analog unison sounds....well there is no comparison. The synced noise is weaksauce...essentially a wave selector of crappy sounding waves.

I'm still trying to decide whether I want to sell the synth, or just use it as a one trick pony. Its quite expensive for what you get and my GAS is still going...I suppose I'll keep it because what it does, it does quite well when you want that (digital filter sounds, FM and ring).
It's kinda what I think compared to how fat I can make my ole AN1X sound but the Nord does have a smooth punchy mid range which maybe more down to the high quality outputs but I like it.
People say they sound cutting and harsh and I guess I'm too use to my Quasimidi's and Monomachine but there's still plenty to explore and I know Autechre liked them so I've gotta delve deeper especially with the audio inputs.
Once tried a 'Lead' 2X and 3 in a shop and wasn't too impressed. I also though the G2 demo sounded shockingly average like a cheap softsynth.

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Post by Entropy Farmer » Wed Nov 07, 2007 12:38 am

Fantastic link, carbon. Thanks! Also thanks for all the uwave info.

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Post by carbon111 » Wed Nov 07, 2007 12:51 am

Entropy Farmer wrote:Fantastic link, carbon. Thanks! Also thanks for all the uwave info.
No problem!

There's some other workshops here that are excellent as well as those in the book:

http://www.clavia.se/nordmodular/Modularzone/
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