Cheapest Step Sequencer ?

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Cheapest Step Sequencer ?

Post by JUGEL » Wed Nov 21, 2007 3:53 pm

What are the best options? No more than $150

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Post by th0mas » Wed Nov 21, 2007 3:57 pm

just drums?

roland tr-505 has some interesting features that are unparallelled. The neatest being if you press two 'pattern' buttons it creates a loop that starts at pattern a and ends at pattern b.

for example, you press buttons '4' and '7' and it will begin to loop patterns 4, 5, 6, 7.

Otherwise an electribe would work too.

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Post by JUGEL » Wed Nov 21, 2007 3:58 pm

No .. I was thinking synths actually. Sorry I should've mentioned that..

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Post by Z » Wed Nov 21, 2007 4:53 pm

Alesis MMT-8's sell for under $100 these days. They have no external storage, but I think you can do SysEx dumps. Alesis made a 1sp rack device called the DataDisk which allowed you to store sequences to 3.5" floppies.

I owned one in the late 80's/early 90's so my memory of its operation is limited. I only used step sequencing once or twice. I mainly used real-time sequencing.

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Post by Cybananna » Wed Nov 21, 2007 4:54 pm

I just posted something similar a few days ago. I assume you want a midi step sequencer, not CV. Also, I needed something you can program as it plays.

http://www.vintagesynth.org/phpBB2/view ... hp?t=32555

I was told the Roland MC-303 transmits it's steps. I haven't followed up on it though. Very cheap if it works.

The Future Retro Mobius seems like the cheapest best option.

MFB also makes step64, but it's about the same price as mobius and mobius was more recommended.

The DSI Evolver sends it's steps too. I have one, but couldn't figure out how to make it contropl external synts. I was looking at an old manual, so I think you have to have rev 3 to do it. I downloaded the manual for rev 3 and it's simple to do. About 2 minutes later, I had it stepping it's self and a Moog Voyager (with a Kawai k1 attached to it's thru port) at the same time with two different sequences. One for the evolver innternal and one for the voyager and the k1. It's great.

The evolver stepping it's self is very deep. I imagine it's flexibility is similar to that of a modular synth with a step sequencer.

The evolver will be my step sequencer for a while. Eventually, I'll get a mobius since I will someday get a small modular and the Evolver doesn't have CV. I'd also like to play with the CV inputs on the voyager this way.

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Re: Cheapest Step Sequencer ?

Post by JSRockit » Wed Nov 21, 2007 4:55 pm

JUGEL wrote:What are the best options? No more than $150
Korg EA-1.
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Post by JUGEL » Wed Nov 21, 2007 5:00 pm

Mobius is way too $$$$
MC-303 scares me ... rather go for a MC-307

yeah .. what about the Electribes?
Or what about the Roland EF-303?

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Post by JSRockit » Wed Nov 21, 2007 6:39 pm

JUGEL wrote: yeah .. what about the Electribes?
Or what about the Roland EF-303?
If two tracks will do...then the EA-1 is the way to go... it is dead simple.
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Post by th0mas » Wed Nov 21, 2007 7:09 pm

JSRockit wrote:
JUGEL wrote: yeah .. what about the Electribes?
Or what about the Roland EF-303?
If two tracks will do...then the EA-1 is the way to go... it is dead simple.
This.

Also, MC-303 sucks for step sequencing. Your notes disappear off of the step grid and you have to find them by searching through the list of notes on a what... 4 digit lcd?

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Post by JUGEL » Wed Nov 21, 2007 7:18 pm

seems like the EA-1 is the best way to go... just want some hardware as a little scratch pad and then I can just dump the sequence into the MPC.

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Post by smallsynth » Wed Nov 21, 2007 10:09 pm

depending on what you need, a qy10 might work. it is very limited, as you probably know. nonetheless, i've used it to sequence up to three midi tracks (that repeat). in performance mode, you can even use it live, though it requires <ENTER> button presses, not just key presses. after a gentle learning curve, it's fairly easy to use as a sketch pad. and i bought one for under $50. need i mention it's battery powered?

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Post by Dane_Xoth » Thu Nov 22, 2007 8:06 am

JUGEL wrote:Mobius is way too $$$$
MC-303 scares me ... rather go for a MC-307

yeah .. what about the Electribes?
Or what about the Roland EF-303?
the EF-303, while a cool little box, is pretty weak for sequencing. May pull mine out of storage next week.

16 steps only.
Since it maps all 128 midi notes, the throw on the tiny sliders makes it damned near impossible to dial up the right note.

EA-1 gets my vote. Decent sounding. Plus audio in thru to filters/FX. 2 tracks of 64 steps. x 256 memory locations.
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Post by Mpresev » Fri Nov 23, 2007 11:42 pm

I was actually disappointed at the EM1 controlling my two kids. Get the RM1X instead .. You'll be happier and more productive. :wink: You can get one for around 150

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Post by crow » Fri Nov 23, 2007 11:45 pm

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Post by pricklyrobot » Sun Nov 25, 2007 1:27 am

JUGEL wrote:seems like the EA-1 is the best way to go... just want some hardware as a little scratch pad and then I can just dump the sequence into the MPC.
Another vote for the EA-1. I use it in a similar manner: build basic step sequences one at a time on the EA-1 (and my AN1x, cool sequencer too but it's more than $150 and has a bunch of keys attached :wink: ), dump them as I go into my MC-50 to build up multi-track sequences on it. Works well.
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