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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:06 am
by hfinn
MrFrodo wrote:Oh, where was I? I wasn't even a sperm cell.

And, if the Avatar was such an infamous factor in ARP's downfall, a more practical means to the development of that synth might have resulted in giving that company a slightly longer timespan.

From what I read in Vintage Synths, the Chroma may be based on the 2600, but it was built partially in response to Sequential's commercial success with the Prophet series. (Phillip Dodds remarked on Sequential's rise to power in his interview.)
So you weren't even born yet, yet you are going to call them idiots. Its responses like this that really get to me. I have a feeling they know a little bit more of what's going on then you did. And you said it yourself "PARTIALLY in response"

From what I understand the Avatar rose from the Centaur project. They needed a way to take some of that R&D and put it into something practical. If I'm wrong about that someone please correct me. It's been a while since I read up on that. One of my best friend's co-workers worked for ARP as an engineer back then. I will be sure to tell him some kid thinks he's an idiot and a shumuk.

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:18 am
by maindeglorie
I've seen the second one in Micke's post. If I remember correctly, I think it has "guitar synthesizer" printed on it somewhere. I know the man who owns it quite well, and I think he may own the original Centaur too. He said it was developed way before the Avatar.

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:27 am
by MrFrodo
hfinn wrote:So you weren't even born yet, yet you are going to call them idiots. Its responses like this that really get to me. I have a feeling they know a little bit more of what's going on then you did. And you said it yourself "PARTIALLY in response"

From what I understand the Avatar rose from the Centaur project. They needed a way to take some of that R&D and put it into something practical. If I'm wrong about that someone please correct me. It's been a while since I read up on that. One of my best friend's co-workers worked for ARP as an engineer back then. I will be sure to tell him some kid thinks he's an idiot and a shumuk.
And, be sure to tell him that "some kid" (who is going to be 28 in a month) wasn't talking abou the employees. He was talking about Lew Pollick and David Friend.

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:32 am
by RobotHeroes
Alright...what mod deleted my post? So that I may impale you. :twisted:

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:38 am
by WDW
I don't think that any mod has ever deleted one of your posts. For to do so would mean fewer copies of your avatar per page.

WD

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:44 am
by hfinn
MrFrodo wrote:
hfinn wrote:So you weren't even born yet, yet you are going to call them idiots. Its responses like this that really get to me. I have a feeling they know a little bit more of what's going on then you did. And you said it yourself "PARTIALLY in response"

From what I understand the Avatar rose from the Centaur project. They needed a way to take some of that R&D and put it into something practical. If I'm wrong about that someone please correct me. It's been a while since I read up on that. One of my best friend's co-workers worked for ARP as an engineer back then. I will be sure to tell him some kid thinks he's an idiot and a shumuk.
And, be sure to tell him that "some kid" (who is going to be 28 in a month) wasn't talking abou the employees. He was talking about Lew Pollick and David Friend.
Well you did say you were not a 'spirm' cell when this was done so I knew the oldest you could be was 27 or so.

I'm just bothered that you couldn't make your point without slinging insults at people. You also didn't originally name names. Your very first statemen just implied ARP as a whole since you said "Damn, those people". I just wish you had been there in 1975-76 while they were working on the Centaur so that you could've set them straight.

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:53 am
by RobotHeroes
Strange for I had posted a big fat man and a baby having a crying contest. No mod to impale? :( *puts away the knives*

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:56 am
by hfinn
RobotHeroes wrote:Strange for I had posted a big fat man and a baby having a crying contest. No mod to impale? :( *puts away the knives*
Am I the baby or the fat man? I don't think I'm fat although I do drink a bit of beer lately...

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 1:33 am
by Jack Spider
RobotHeroes wrote:Alright...what mod deleted my post? So that I may impale you. :twisted:
I did - it had no bearing on the thread and might have sparked a derailment.

You haven't a weapon long or sharp enough to impale me. I will eat all of your impaling weapons.

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 1:58 am
by Stab Frenzy
Frodo, you really should think before you post. Actually, just don't post at all.

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 2:06 am
by gfriden
I liked this thread a lot better when it was about the Centaur... :evil:

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 2:09 am
by WDW
As did I and likely most everyone reading this thread. So, any posts that are not on subject in this thread will be deleted from here on out.

Carry on with Centaur talk...

WD

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 5:47 am
by energetik
So this Centaur was what Friend turned into the Avatar then? Kludged a bunch of parts together along with guitar input circuits ad tried to sell several million dollars worth in a year's time? From what I read Pearlman pretty much got railroaded.

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 11:23 am
by gfriden
energetik wrote:So this Centaur was what Friend turned into the Avatar then? Kludged a bunch of parts together along with guitar input circuits ad tried to sell several million dollars worth in a year's time? From what I read Pearlman pretty much got railroaded.
Yup! That about appears to be the general consensus today... Seems to me those early synth manufacturers could have done with fewer pie in the sky tech-heads and a couple of more marketing experts. But as someone said earlier in this thread, 'with the benefit of 30 years hindsight'..... :roll:

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 11:26 am
by Bitexion
So I guess the general consensus is that Mr Friend was the evil bastard/genious that brought ARP to its knees?

I've read the "Rise and Fall of ARP" article from the old business magazine.