So I tried out a TB-303 yesterday

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Re: So I tried out a TB-303 yesterday

Post by Acid Mitch » Wed Jan 02, 2008 11:22 am

killedaway wrote:
Syn303 wrote: They are NOT identical, the 303's ACcent is more punchier than the Revolution's ACcent. I have owned a Revolution before.
ahh... you seemed to have missed the "to my ears" part of my reply. it's okay though, it happens to all of us.
Have you ever compared the 2 machines ?
There are obvious differences if you compare them. It's nothing to do with syn303's ears.

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Post by pelican » Wed Jan 02, 2008 12:19 pm

I bought my 303 maybe 4 years ago for $700 which at the time I thought was a lot of money. I sent it off for full devilfish upgrade for $800. Total=$1500 for the ultimate acid box

Now I see 303's going for $1700, and devilfish's going for $3000.

Even being the complete 303 purist that I am, there is no way they are worth that kind of money. If my devilfish was broke and unfixable, I'd def be replacing it with one of the cheaper alternatives out there.

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Re: So I tried out a TB-303 yesterday

Post by Syn303 » Wed Jan 02, 2008 12:37 pm

Acid Mitch wrote:
killedaway wrote:
Syn303 wrote: They are NOT identical, the 303's ACcent is more punchier than the Revolution's ACcent. I have owned a Revolution before.
ahh... you seemed to have missed the "to my ears" part of my reply. it's okay though, it happens to all of us.
Have you ever compared the 2 machines ?
There are obvious differences if you compare them. It's nothing to do with syn303's ears.

Well just for the record to prove that i have used a Revolution, go to my myspace page and listen to Krop Cirkle, that track was done using a Revolution. Then listen to Acid Abuse, you will hear two 303's used in that track, spot the differences in sound between those two tracks. And on a final note: there's nothing wrong with my ears.
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Post by hollandturbine » Wed Jan 02, 2008 4:03 pm

The TB 303 is a good little synth, what people are really looking at is how much they sell for now, and of coarse the price does not reflect the quality of the TB 303 as a synth, the price only reflects the fact that there was only a small amount made and that EBay opened up a global market that took our beloved synths from the reasonable secondhand stores and local papers giving people from all over the globe the opportunity to jack prices up. :P

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Post by jp8080 » Wed Jan 02, 2008 5:04 pm

godmcgarvey wrote:Still the most over rated, over hyped piece of c**p ever made. An essential element of any pretentious owners collection.
303 = classic. Amazing interaction between sequencer and synth. Amazing build-up of the analog circuitry as patterns build.

Best of all? An "accidental" masterpiece.

I also take personal offense at your "essential element of any pretentious owners collection" comment. You should be a bit more polite, friend.

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Re: Who needs a TB303?

Post by jp8080 » Wed Jan 02, 2008 5:11 pm

Tardis wrote:If you're gonna spend $1,500-$2,000 on a synth buy a System 100, and FR Mobius and call it a day.
You'll get more bang for your buck out of those then you will out of a 303.
The System 100 sounds way better then the TB303 IMO.
system 100 is very nice indeed. going prices seem to be $3000 usd for a complete system these days. Worth it? I think so for the whole system (great spring reverb in the mixer component and nice sequencer).

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Post by jp8080 » Wed Jan 02, 2008 5:19 pm

Soundwave wrote:In defense of the Revolution it has the best 'hands on' 303 style sequencer
I think the 777 interface kills the revolution interface myself.

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Post by Alex E » Wed Jan 02, 2008 5:20 pm

hollandturbine wrote:The TB 303 is a good little synth, what people are really looking at is how much they sell for now, and of coarse the price does not reflect the quality of the TB 303 as a synth, the price only reflects the fact that there was only a small amount made and that EBay opened up a global market that took our beloved synths from the reasonable secondhand stores and local papers giving people from all over the globe the opportunity to jack prices up. :P
Good point.

I mean the bottom line is they sound good, they aren't peices of junk, but the money you would have to pay for one is too much considering you have so many alternatives.

So what if it doesn't nail the 303 accent or if it doesn't sound quite the same. Maybe the people who say that are only saying these things to justify the fact that they gave, or would give, an arm and a leg for a real 303.

Maybe clones are not exactly the same, but if what you really care about is the music, then that shouldn't be a problem right?
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Post by Bitexion » Wed Jan 02, 2008 5:28 pm

It's not like you find fully equipped System 100 racks on every street corner anymore either. Sounds like you can just walk out in a store and buy one according to you guys :P

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Post by wvcttr » Wed Jan 02, 2008 5:55 pm

Dirk wrote:[brag mode on]I have 2 tb-303's and 2 system 100's.[/bragmode off]
Ha ha ha... what a pretentious thing to say :lol: (Of course, I'm joking.)

I don't have a system 100... but I do have 3 devil fishes (oops... forgot to wrap that in [bragmode] tags). I've changed my signature accordingly.

I just got #2 and #3 about two weeks ago and I haven't compared them to #1. With the holidays and all... I've had little time to fool with them much (*sigh*). But this thread has got me wanting to compare them.
pelican wrote:I bought my 303 maybe 4 years ago for $700 which at the time I thought was a lot of money. I sent it off for full devilfish upgrade for $800. Total=$1500 for the ultimate acid box

Now I see 303's going for $1700, and devilfish's going for $3000.
Yep... it wasn't a cheap ride for me neither. And no, the $3000 price tag seen on Ebay is way too much. But... I don't mind... 8)

For the record, Robin Whittle says that there's some guy in Cali with 4 Devil Fishes... so... there's someone even more stupider than me in the world.
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Re: So I tried out a TB-303 yesterday

Post by Acid Mitch » Wed Jan 02, 2008 7:32 pm

Syn303 wrote:
And on a final note: there's nothing wrong with my ears.
I know, That's what I was saying.

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Post by Acid Mitch » Wed Jan 02, 2008 7:39 pm

Alex E wrote:
Maybe clones are not exactly the same, but if what you really care about is the music, then that shouldn't be a problem right?
Well that depends on if your music needs what the clones can not do., so if you really care about the music sometimes the real thing is the only thing that will do the job.

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Post by Acid Mitch » Wed Jan 02, 2008 7:53 pm

What is it with all these people complaining about the price of 303's anyway ?
Are ya'll just jelous because you can't afford one or what ?

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Post by Soundwave » Wed Jan 02, 2008 8:17 pm

jp8080 wrote:
Soundwave wrote:In defense of the Revolution it has the best 'hands on' 303 style sequencer
I think the 777 interface kills the revolution interface myself.
Of course the 777 is the superior machine tho I did say sequencer as the Revs is (just) better with the remix function, reverse playback and funky circular design.

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Post by supermel74 » Wed Jan 02, 2008 8:31 pm

Acid Mitch wrote:What is it with all these people complaining about the price of 303's anyway ?
Are ya'll just jelous because you can't afford one or what ?
I think it might have something to do with the fact that you get machines that are at least 90% as good for less than 10% of the price.

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