Synthesizers that have a 'Moog-like' sound

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Post by tyrannosaurus mark » Tue Jan 22, 2008 5:09 am

I'm confused by your post, I said that those synths DON'T have that 'moogy' sound


And so I agree with you about the microkorg, but I think the nord is trying to get into that territory but it lacks a certain something, and that certain something is the thing I want! I'm gonna keep trying to program it though, its early days for me with the nord
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Post by CZ Rider » Tue Jan 22, 2008 5:21 am

I have quite a few non-Moog analog mono synths including an Arp Odyssey with the 4035 (Moog lawsuit) ladder. The closest I have would be a Roland System 100M. It has those fast envelopes, and a pretty good 24db/oct low pass filter.
Of course the Mini or a Voyager is a good low buck way to get that Moog sound, but if you want the real deal you will need those 901 osc, 904a filter along with some 911's,a 902 and the cp3 mixer that gets that nasty distortion when turned up to 11.
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Post by sequence » Tue Jan 22, 2008 5:24 am

tyrannosaurus mark wrote: but I think the nord is trying to get into that territory but it lacks a certain something, and that certain something is the thing I want! I'm gonna keep trying to program it though, its early days for me with the nord
That "certain something" is what Nord engineers wanted with the NL back when it was introduced 13 years ago. whether they succeeded is up for debate, esp with purists. Me? I'd rather have the Modular. :D

Keep at it, y'll get the NL sooner or later. Nice to have an LP as a model to compare with.
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Post by tyrannosaurus mark » Tue Jan 22, 2008 6:57 am

Wow, impressive hoard of moog synthesizers there!

How about the micromoog, a good source of 'the moog sound' ?
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Post by crystalmsc » Tue Jan 22, 2008 8:39 am

sequence wrote:Novation A-station, with some effort I could get a real close Moog emulation.
polardark wrote:I even managed to get some moogy leads from unlikely candidates such as the Novation Bass Station Rack.
I also feel that Novation have some nice tone for this. With the BSR, I have some thinner sounding Moog impression bass/lead, while the X-stn have some beefiness that I like. Other synth to mention is the ION with the MG filter, it sounds good to me.
tyrannosaurus mark wrote:Does anyone have experience with synths that have that sort of 'moog' sound?
other than the Moog synth, you may want to check out synth like the MFB Synth II, SE1x, the Minimax ASB or the New Plugiator. Those would do a better moog emulation than those synths you've mentioned.
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Post by OMNI26 » Tue Jan 22, 2008 9:02 am

Although it's not a hardware synth, and definitely not a real Moog, the Minimonsta softsynth is amazing.......I have done direct A/B comparisons with Minimonsta and my 1974 Minimoog and can't tell the difference on many patches.

I have a rare ARP Explorer with the 4034 (same as 4035....Moog design) filter, and it does really have the Moog sound. But it still doesn't sound just like a Moog synth that is being played using one oscillator, probably due to all the other stuff that is going on in the signal path.

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Post by crystalmsc » Tue Jan 22, 2008 9:34 am

OMNI26 wrote:the Minimonsta softsynth is amazing.......
+1, if it's a software, that's the one for me.
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Post by spookyman » Tue Jan 22, 2008 10:15 am

Mos-Lab modular...sounds really Moog-like. I tryed once last year and was really impressed.
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Post by JJQ » Tue Jan 22, 2008 10:29 am

As far as I know does both MOS-LAB and COTK make true Moog-clones. MOS-LAb is slightly cheaper but COTK has cooler cases....
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Post by gfriden » Tue Jan 22, 2008 10:34 am

I'm going to throw in my two bob on the ARP, Moog ladder filter infringement issue. (Bit of a mouthful that sentence, eh?) While I agree that ARPs using that filter sound very fat, I am of the opinion that they just sound like unusually fat ARPs and nothing like Moogs. Now, I've never actually played a 2600 with that filter, but I have heard recordings with the Oddy and I do own an AXXE with the Moog filter, and I must say they sound very ARP to me. Just a caution to those that think they are going to get a cheapish Mini if they buy an Oddy with that filter. Besides, one should buy an ARP to get an ARP not a Moog! 8)
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Post by lovedroid » Tue Jan 22, 2008 2:47 pm

polardark wrote:I think you can make many synths sound moogy if you just program them right. I even managed to get some moogy leads from unlikely candidates such as the Novation Bass Station Rack. Main thing is that you use 24dB filters and use portamento in that wonky way that the original mini did.
Yes, it's quite funny that a synth marketed as a TB303-clone is almost better at sounding like a moog than a 303... :) But I agree, to me the Novation BS sounds surprisingly moogy sometimes, even though I'm probably not as picky as some are...

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Post by Automatic Gainsay » Tue Jan 22, 2008 3:36 pm

tyrannosaurus mark wrote: How about the micromoog, a good source of 'the moog sound' ?
You will hear people say that it is not, but after playing the Moogs and other synths that I have, I will say that it does. You can watch my video demonstration on YouTube and decide for yourself, though!

CZ Rider wrote:Of course the Mini or a Voyager is a good low buck way to get that Moog sound, but if you want the real deal you will need those 901 osc, 904a filter along with some 911's,a 902 and the cp3 mixer that gets that nasty distortion when turned up to 11.
Just what did you think a Mini was a mini of?
I totally agree.

Further clarification:
There are lots of levels of what people call "the Moog Sound," but if we're going to get hardcore about it, CZ Rider is right. "The Moog Sound" is the extremely rich, saturated sound generated by Moog modulars.
The Minimoog doesn't particularly sound like Moog modular due to the fact that it is designed differently, but it definitely has a variant of "The Moog Sound" that other synths lack. Also, according to that which I've heard and played, nothing sounds like a Minimoog. The architecture coupled with its oscillators and filter have it possessing a unique sound.
There is also what a lot of people call "The Moog Sound" which is just basically synths that have the ladder filter. The Rogue and Source and etc. really don't sound like each other, but they do share the Moog transistor ladder filter, and tend to have more in common than non Moog synths... including some non-Moogs with transistor ladder filters.
The ARPs I have had: Arp Avatar (essentially an Odyssey) and ARP Axxe sounded NOTHING like a Moog... not even remotely.
The 2600 with 4012 does not sound like a Minimoog, but it does sound the closest to a Moog modular I've ever heard from an analog synth (including the modulars I've had).

Pedantic disclaimer: by "sounding like" I mean that the average of sounds it produces have similar timbres... not that a couple of individual patches sound similar, or that it is possible to do a couple of sounds which sound a lot like another. Any synth can make a general analog synth sound that sounds like a general analog synth sound made by a Minimoog or something else. When something actually "sounds like" another synth, it is when one synth can effectively emulate the characteristic sound of another.
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Post by hageir » Tue Jan 22, 2008 3:51 pm

MOOG...... OLD SCHOOL!!!! :lol:
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Post by OriginalJambo » Tue Jan 22, 2008 6:14 pm

The LP surely has to sound a bit Minimoogy at times.

And in that Mini, Voyager and MiniMax comparison test I heard recently the MiniMax sounded dead close on some patches.

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Post by THM » Tue Jan 22, 2008 7:25 pm

I ensure there's no absolute surrogate for a real MOOG synth nor system.

An example of a system that can come pretty close: the Synthesizers.com modular systems. Especially the Synthesizer.com Q150 Ladder Filter is imho a pretty decent MOOG 904A clone.
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