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Post by realpolitik » Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:53 am

Suburban Bather wrote:
realpolitik wrote:
Automatic Gainsay wrote: :::coughs:::
:::chokes:::

Um... a Mini has no MIDI in.
But a Mini has keys, mere fooger pedals don't.
There are keyboard controllers that have CV outs.
I had no idea there were keyboard controllers pre-midi that had cv outs. End discussion.
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Post by MissionBrown » Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:00 am

realpolitik wrote:
Suburban Bather wrote:
realpolitik wrote: But a Mini has keys, mere fooger pedals don't.
There are keyboard controllers that have CV outs.
I had no idea there were keyboard controllers pre-midi that had cv outs. End discussion.
pre and post midi the beat goes on

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Post by realpolitik » Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:06 am

Oontss?
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Post by MissionBrown » Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:12 am

n-f-i what you mean sir

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Post by Henfield » Thu Jan 31, 2008 12:32 pm

Many monosynths also have CV outs, so if you already have a CV synth (ARP, Moog, Roland, and some Korgs) that has a 1 v/oct CV out, you have a controller for a MoogerFooger Moog!

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Post by MissionBrown » Sat Feb 02, 2008 11:03 pm

Henfield wrote:Many monosynths also have CV outs, so if you already have a CV synth (ARP, Moog, Roland, and some Korgs) that has a 1 v/oct CV out, you have a controller for a MoogerFooger Moog!
Just read the manual and they state it can be used as another oscillator for 1v/Oct synths.
Sweet!

Mine should be here tomorrow as it cleared customs yesterday :)

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Post by MissionBrown » Sun Feb 03, 2008 6:49 am

Actually after re reading the title of this thread I think you'd probably nee to start with 'em in parallel right?

Otherwise you'd end up with just one oscillators raw tone synced to the one before it...

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Post by synapsecollapse » Mon Feb 04, 2008 12:45 pm

MissionBrown wrote:Actually after re reading the title of this thread I think you'd probably nee to start with 'em in parallel right?

Otherwise you'd end up with just one oscillators raw tone synced to the one before it...
that was my original thought when i saw the title too. parallel, not series. so in addition to everything else you would need to turn the MF107 trio into a mini you can add a mixer. or a CP251 :wink:

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Post by meatballfulton » Mon Feb 04, 2008 8:00 pm

kuroichi wrote:
No midi in, it's useless as a musical synth.
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
How about without a MIDI IN or access to a CV/gate controller it's useless as a musical synth 8)
I listened to Hatfield and the North at Rainbow. They were very wonderful and they made my heart a prisoner.

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Post by MissionBrown » Mon Feb 04, 2008 8:10 pm

Finally got mine yesterday...
This thing is... its not a nice pedal.
Nope.
Its not really what i expected.

I ran my Juno 60 microkorg, guitar and bass through it.
Its not hard to get messed up sounds, but finding a good sound is.
Though that depends on your definition of good.

Its not quite doing what I'd hoped, but is close enough.
Giving a dirty pianoesque bass which is what I was after.
Its dirty real dirty! I think that with a bit of CV control and some "classic" tuning 21.5 notes above your root note it'll do just fine.

It'll let you do 5th's easily enough which is fine.
And as ling as the oscillators frequency is set to above your highest note you'll get sound.

In all I see myself integrating this into a more modular setup to get the best out of it. An ADSR With a guitar trigger and filter will work wonders IMO. Now I've just got to get round to building the guitar trigger.....

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Post by MissionBrown » Tue Feb 05, 2008 9:48 am

This pedal is so unpredictable.....
had some sounds yesterday I didn't mind... today.... dunno.

Anyway as a 1v/oct oscillator it works really well.
I'm slightly bummed that the frostwave MC1 doesn't support portamento.
Oh well. The MC2 does.

I'm not going to worry as there are probably DIY slew limiter schematics.

Out of the 3 synths I have on hands to use as midi controllers , the microKorg comes out on top.
Why?
Because it wasn't made in the 80s!

Poly800 and the juno 60(via ProDcb3) are fine as far as big keyed non velocity standard/middle pitch transmitting controllers go but the MK beats 'em despite small keys!

I didn't have quite the succes with "piano" sounds I was hoping for.
But then i was trying to use the Juno as the master controller.
I suppose I should have a crack with the MK but now I've had beer and no dinner... well.. I'm feeling fuzzy round the edges...

3 of 'em might be great through some filters.
Dunno about being a voyager or minimoog core, but you could do worse.
They do need an audio input to work properlY even if all you do is mix out the master osc.

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Post by Stab Frenzy » Tue Feb 05, 2008 10:25 am

What made you think you'd get piano sounds from it?

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Post by MissionBrown » Tue Feb 05, 2008 10:51 am

Stab Frenzy wrote:What made you think you'd get piano sounds from it?
Not exactly piano sounds M.
But kinda the same dirty electric piano type bottom end I got from the prophet 600

It sort of achieves it but its not really predictable.
What it does do I like.

There was some method I read about which is quite good where you tune a synced Osc 21 1/2 semitones above your basic pitch and the result was quite EP like.

Now it is an it isn't
I wasn't going for an exact piano tone. Just an approximation of an EP patch I made on the prophet 600 I sold(stupid stupid).

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