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Post by inVrs » Sun Mar 09, 2008 12:34 pm

it was definatly a big seller, not sure if it were about 10000 or 30000 units produced.
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Post by clusterchord » Sun Mar 09, 2008 2:29 pm

afaik 10000 - 12000
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Post by Diametro » Mon Mar 10, 2008 7:41 am

Aside from the polyphony and some changes in the mod section, it seems the 6 and 8 aren't all that different (aside from the filters) ... the programming section seems pretty much the same ... if anything, perhaps the 6 has the edge because with the vcos and lfos you can select multiple waveforms ... with the 8 it's only one ...

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Post by xpander » Mon Mar 10, 2008 9:55 am

Diametro wrote:if anything, perhaps the 6 has the edge because with the vcos and lfos you can select multiple waveforms ...
for me, it's the sysex patch storage courtesy of europa.

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Post by clusterchord » Mon Mar 10, 2008 12:31 pm

Diametro wrote:Aside from the polyphony and some changes in the mod section, it seems the 6 and 8 aren't all that different (aside from the filters) ... the programming section seems pretty much the same ... if anything, perhaps the 6 has the edge because with the vcos and lfos you can select multiple waveforms ... with the 8 it's only one ...
well on paper yes. in reality, they are pretty much built differently. 8 has discrete oscillators, Roland BA662 VCAs and IR3R01-chip based snappy hardware envelopes. 6 uses Curtis hardware, CEM3340 VCO and 3360 VCAs, and software generated envelopes. the difference in filters goes beyond topology (i.e. multimode vs hp+lp..) as they use the same expo chip (IR3109), but the circuit itself is different, so even when used it the same setting, like 24dB/Oct, theres a difference in character.

all together, u got two very different sounding machines with very similar looks/layout.


@sysex: encore midi allows for full sysex on jp8. and ads midi cc for a few param.
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Post by Z » Mon Mar 10, 2008 2:24 pm

Diametro wrote:Aside from the polyphony and some changes in the mod section, it seems the 6 and 8 aren't all that different (aside from the filters) ... the programming section seems pretty much the same ... if anything, perhaps the 6 has the edge because with the vcos and lfos you can select multiple waveforms ... with the 8 it's only one ...
I like the fact that the Jupe 6's oscillators can drop to 32' as opposed to the 8' only going to 16'. Plus, the mulit-mode filter is freakin sweet.

With Europa, you can also turn OFF waveforms.

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Post by Bitexion » Mon Mar 10, 2008 4:55 pm

I don't know why, the JP8 just seems more cool to me. Maybe it's just the legend.

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Re: Tell me about your JUPITER-6 ...

Post by Don Solaris » Mon Mar 10, 2008 6:36 pm

Diametro wrote:Just made a deal to buy one ... Call this Jup-6 by proxy ...
Hi D!

I wonder who recommended you to get such an aggressive sounding synth? :lol:


REwire wrote:l I use it for. I don't really like it's sound for anything else. Like Wiss said, it does sound a bit digital cold and hard, very unlike the same Oscs implemented in my P5 and MKS-80 v4.
Are you sure you are not talking about Rev 5?

Because Rev 4 and JP-6 are really the same hardware. Makes me wonder if they applied different gain stage or is it the surrounding electronics around CEMs that is implemented in a different way. I think i got a table somwhere:

MKS-80 rev 4
VCO: CEM3340
VCF: IR3109
VCA: CEM3360

Jupiter 6
VCO: CEM3340
VCF: IR3109
VCA: CEM3360

MKS-80 rev 5
VCO: IR3R03
VCF: IR3R05
VCA: IR3R05

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Post by Synthaholic » Mon Mar 10, 2008 6:42 pm

Hey Don, good to see you here! (I'm kpatz over there, as Synthaholic wasn't available as a username).

I hear you snagged that OB-1 and Pro-One from the same seller. I was trying to get one of them but I guess you beat me to the punch.

I may end up with a Jup-6, or one of the aforementioned mono synths some day, next time a bargain turns up on the 'bay. Or maybe Diametro will sell me his after he finds a Jup-8! :D
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Post by Don Solaris » Mon Mar 10, 2008 6:51 pm

Synthaholic wrote:Hey Don, good to see you here! (I'm kpatz over there, as Synthaholic wasn't available as a username).

I hear you snagged that OB-1 and Pro-One from the same seller. I was trying to get one of them but I guess you beat me to the punch.
Yow kpatz! Yeah i recognized your avatar. :-) First apology to my good friend Diametro for stealing his thread. K, just wanted to let you know i might not pick the OB-1. Give me a week and i will let you know. I found something "bigger". Just contacted Clusterchord regarding and he confirmed me the price is fantastic. I knew this is gonna happen - buying two BIG vintage polyphonics at the same time. (i think Cluster could have something to say on that...) ;-) haha!

As of Jupiter 6, i might pick one too, despite some negative things i've said about it earlier. See, these comments were in regarding to comparison of lush JP-8 style pads. I was watching the JP-6 from the wrong angle - as something to replicate the JP-8 which was completely wrong. I think JP-6 can be good for other things, like arpeggio sequencing, osc sync, sfx and more. It is a "sort of" polyphonic SH-101 (haha! yeah sure). ;-) Good side is, there are over 10 000 JP6's available so we won't see skyrocket high prices for a while.
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Post by wiss » Mon Mar 10, 2008 6:56 pm

Don Solaris wrote:[ Good side is, there are over 10 000 JP6's available so we won't see skyrocket high prices for a while.
one just sold for $2300 and wasnt even blessed with Europa.
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Post by Don Solaris » Mon Mar 10, 2008 6:58 pm

wiss wrote:one just sold for $2300 and wasnt even blessed with Europa.
Don't think so (that it was actually sold). Better check the bid histoy. Fake as Pamela's tits:

http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... 0211330195

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Post by MarkShovel » Mon Mar 10, 2008 7:07 pm

Hi Don,

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Post by Don Solaris » Mon Mar 10, 2008 7:15 pm

Wow, so much folks form the "old gang".

Hello to you Mark, dear friend! :wave:

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Re: Jupiter 6

Post by echen007 » Mon Mar 10, 2008 7:17 pm

Hi Don,
The Jupiter 6 is mine that just sold. I was leary myself and initially cancelled the winners bids since he had no feedback and I did not hear from him. Well he came through so far and have been very communicative as soon as the auction ended and will be FedEx'ing a MO for payment. Of course it will need to clear before I send it off. So far so good.. will keep you guys posted :D

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