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Future Retro Revolution Battery

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 12:53 am
by voltageHead
I have owned a Revolution for about a year and a half.Thats about the battery life on the ver 1s.
I went to the future retro web site for info on replacing the battery and they recomended to put in a battery holder so you would not have to sodler they battery every year and a half.
So I bought the parts(battery,AA battery holder and double stick tape.
I have my freind open it up and it all ready has a holder in it and it was not taped down!! I had felt some thing loose in there when I moved it around sometimes.
But I had bought this thing new and it came like this.
On the FR web page it said that the batteries are solder in to start with.
I thought that this was strange FR must of made a few of these different.

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 2:09 am
by bakeded
:-#

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 3:40 am
by supermel74
Seriously though, WTF was FR thinking? Most people who buy a new synth probably don't want to have to bust out the soldering gun a year later to replace the battery.

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 4:33 am
by hfinn
Hence the FRR 2

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 5:29 am
by tunedLow
supermel74 wrote:Seriously though, WTF was FR thinking? Most people who buy a new synth probably don't want to have to bust out the soldering gun a year later to replace the battery.
It's called a mistake. When you design a product from top to bottom you'll make them too.

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 11:07 am
by Syn303
Apart from the battery issue, im surprised none of you know about the blue jumper, as the Revolution has 2-modes 1) Rev mode and 2) TB-303 mode

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 2:34 pm
by elphcoil
hey Syn303, can you elaborate a bit? i've not heard of this blue jumper.

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 3:45 pm
by Syn303
elphcoil wrote:hey Syn303, can you elaborate a bit? i've not heard of this blue jumper.
If you open up your revolution, and on the underside of the main board i think you will see a blue jumper switch, and if you move the jumper to (i think) it's the left or right (should be two spare prongs showing) move it over to them. This emulates the TB-303 mode (info from Jered)

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 4:38 pm
by Meso
voltageHead wrote:I have my freind open it up and it all ready has a holder in it and it was not taped down!!
I replaced the battery of my revo and placed a battery holder for easy future replacing
as mine only had a battery soldered directly to the board.
Syn303 wrote:
elphcoil wrote:hey Syn303, can you elaborate a bit? i've not heard of this blue jumper.
If you open up your revolution, and on the underside of the main board i think you will see a blue jumper switch, and if you move the jumper to (i think) it's the left or right (should be two spare prongs showing) move it over to them. This emulates the TB-303 mode (info from Jered)
Do you have any more info on this?
I am just wondering how the 303 mode differs from regular Revo mode as the Revo is basically a 303 clone/emulator.

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 6:19 pm
by Syn303
Meso wrote:Do you have any more info on this?
I am just wondering how the 303 mode differs from regular Revo mode as the Revo is basically a 303 clone/emulator.
Can't remember exactly what Jered mentioned about changing the jumper and what it does, you'll have to email Jered at F-R and ask him. But opening up your Revolution may void it's warranty, unless it's now out of date!

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 7:11 pm
by Meso
Syn303 wrote:
Meso wrote:Do you have any more info on this?
I am just wondering how the 303 mode differs from regular Revo mode as the Revo is basically a 303 clone/emulator.
Can't remember exactly what Jered mentioned about changing the jumper and what it does, you'll have to email Jered at F-R and ask him. But opening up your Revolution may void it's warranty, unless it's now out of date!
I already opened it up to change the battery and place a battery holder,
my battery died after only about 6 months after buying it, it is one of the first ones sn #0019

I guess I'll just e-mail Jered then, thanks anyway.

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 11:22 pm
by voltageHead
I never heard about the blue jumper.
That sounds interesting.

Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 12:24 pm
by Meso
Well I just heard back from Jered, this is what he had to say about the jumper settings:

There is a little blue jumper shunt that can be repositioned to connect the
middle pin to the other outside pin of the internal jumper. What this does
is allow the Revolution's amplifier Gate signal to decay over time just as
the original TB303 did. The benefits of the 303 mode is it creates more
varying dynamics between long and short notes, the drawback is that you can
no longer create infinitely sustained notes because the audio level will
eventually decay to nothing.

Thanks,
Jered

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 12:57 am
by Soundwave
Syn303 wrote:
Meso wrote:Do you have any more info on this?
I am just wondering how the 303 mode differs from regular Revo mode as the Revo is basically a 303 clone/emulator.
Can't remember exactly what Jered mentioned about changing the jumper and what it does, you'll have to email Jered at F-R and ask him. But opening up your Revolution may void it's warranty, unless it's now out of date!
The Rev by default is set to infinite sustain for (like the Devilfish I believe) which is good for long drone sounds.
The TB303's sustain dies down to emulate the energy lost on a bass guitar string, if you want this setting on the Rev then you have to take the entire casing away from the main base screws and change a blue jumper which you can't miss (tho I'd email Jered before doing so if you still have the guarantee). Personally I'd leave it as it is. 8)