nord lead 2x or mek ?

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Post by clubbedtodeath » Mon Apr 07, 2008 6:30 am

radam wrote:So I'm assuming you meant that the internal sequencer is not capable of changing patches....
Yes.
Couldn't I just build the patch changes into the mpc's sequence?
Yes, but it's a monophonic synthesiser.

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Post by crystalmsc » Mon Apr 07, 2008 7:22 am

radam wrote:I'm working mostly in experimental electronic music, but it's a tough question to answer. I'm also doing quite a bit of sound design for film.
with those synths you got, I'd look more into the MEK for that.
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Post by radam » Mon Apr 07, 2008 10:16 am

clubbedtodeath wrote:
radam wrote:So I'm assuming you meant that the internal sequencer is not capable of changing patches....
Yes.
Couldn't I just build the patch changes into the mpc's sequence?
Yes, but it's a monophonic synthesiser.
Have you ever noticed whether or not the thing transmits anything useful, midi wise, when changing patches?

I wonder how it would respond to 1/32note patch changes @ 130bmp ;)

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Post by clubbedtodeath » Mon Apr 07, 2008 10:51 am

radam wrote:Have you ever noticed whether or not the thing transmits anything useful, midi wise, when changing patches?
Haven't checked. It certainly responds to MIDI patch change requests, though.
I wonder how it would respond to 1/32note patch changes @ 130bmp ;)
Not very well, I'd imagine. The hardware would cope with it, certainly, but with each patch change you'd be abruptly cutting off your previous sound -- since it can only play one note at a time.

If I may speak frankly, I think it's a daft idea to use the monophonic Evolver as a drum machine, and you'd be well advised to drop it.

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Post by alan partridge » Mon Apr 07, 2008 12:11 pm

IMHO you could easily get your percussiveness elsewhere as said, & MEK timbres might also still sound 'fresher' for this genre , because nord leads have been used to death around it virtually 15 years ( flame protector - still nice all-round synths ;-) )

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Post by steveman » Mon Apr 07, 2008 1:01 pm

crystalmsc wrote:
radam wrote:I'm working mostly in experimental electronic music, but it's a tough question to answer. I'm also doing quite a bit of sound design for film.
with those synths you got, I'd look more into the MEK for that.
Agreed. You've already got 2 VAs and a wavetable synth since, the MEK would give something further away from theose than the Nord I reckon.
BTW the MEK doesn't do wavetables like the Microwave.

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Post by actuel » Mon Apr 07, 2008 1:10 pm

steveman wrote: BTW the MEK doesn't do wavetables like the Microwave.
no it don't :)
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Post by Stab Frenzy » Mon Apr 07, 2008 1:17 pm

radam wrote:I wonder how it would respond to 1/32note patch changes @ 130bmp ;)
Not good at all, there's a little lag when changing patches.

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Post by kvnvk » Mon Apr 07, 2008 1:55 pm

radam, is this strictly an either/or situation? personally I'd take both the Nord and the MEK and lose the MS2000 and Novation.

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Post by radam » Mon Apr 07, 2008 7:59 pm

What would you say the most major limitation is with the MEK's wavetable oscillators? Is there an easy answer to this question?

If patch changes wouldn't work...I could potentially just sequence a mix between the four oscillators correct? So, I'd create percussive sounds, each using just one oscillator, then in my sequence create 100% mixes from one to the next.






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Post by Joey » Mon Apr 07, 2008 8:47 pm

the MEK will simply not work as a drum machine, period.

only oscillator 3 and 4 have the digital waves, the other two are regular analog oscillators.

they all run through the same filter and amp, it would be near impossible to get a full set of drum sounds running on one patch.

if you had 4 or 5 MEK's it would be a different story, or even an MEK and DEVO.

but you most likely won't.

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Post by JSRockit » Mon Apr 07, 2008 9:08 pm

kvnvk wrote:radam, is this strictly an either/or situation? personally I'd take both the Nord and the MEK and lose the MS2000 and Novation.
That's the best advice yet.
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Post by radam » Mon Apr 07, 2008 10:29 pm

thanks for all the comments.....

As always, it's just going to be a matter of getting the MEK into the studio for a few days....

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Post by radam » Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:37 am

I realize how ridiculous this may seem, but I'm just glad it's over with and I couldn't be happier :)

1. Bought the nord 2x....returned it

2. Bought the x-station + ordered a desktop evolver......returned the x-
station

3. Cancelled the order for the desktop evolver, replaced the order with MEK

4. Brought the MEK home today :)

it really is fantastic

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Post by wardshorsehead » Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:52 am

Now you can cook up some interesting percussion sounds on the MEK and sample them into your MPC.

Problem solved!

Then the MEK can be used for incredible bassline, lead sounds, and all sorts of other stuff.
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