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oboe sound on "everything counts" ?

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 7:01 pm
by 8bit9bot


aside from the fact that this video is horrible - i always wondered how they made the synthetic oboe-type sound in this song... i've tried to get similar sounds with pulse width, hardsync, ppg/waldorf wavetables, and using yamaha FM synths - if its the synclavier then it may only be recreatable with the synclavier unfortunately

ps - i dont think its PCM

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 7:20 pm
by Z
The "Shawm" is most likely the Synclavier as stated in this Wiki article:

http://www.answers.com/topic/everything ... ertainment

EDIT: After listing to the music in the video, I noticed a trill at the beginning of some phrases, which could be the result of mutli-sampling or playing the actual instrument - imagine that!

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 7:24 pm
by ronP
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The "Oboe" setting on my CASIO MT-70 nails that sound; I play the song's two-note lead line ("raaaaar-rar" . . . "rar-raaaaar") through a phaser and delay for added track-matching texture.

:)


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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 8:05 pm
by Micke
While they did use both the Synclavier II and Emulator on CTA, I think it's a real shawm (the loud sounding predecessor of the modern Oboe) on "Everything Counts". Also, Gore performs the Melodica part on this song.

Micke

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 8:16 pm
by 8bit9bot
wow its real? no wonder why no synth could do it haha - i didnt know martin gore played wind instruments... not that its a very intricate line

now the question is... how did they make the similar sound which is in blasphemous rumors? maybe the same way... i dunno


Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 9:27 pm
by Z
I thought it sounded to clean to be sampled, especailly with the trills.
8bit9bot wrote:now the question is... how did they make the similar sound which is in blasphemous rumors? maybe the same way... i dunno
That sound sounds sampled to me. Very 12 bit.

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 11:04 pm
by DX
Altought I have understood it was a real instrument (at least for original version), I checked that a DX7 can achieve that sound.

There is a preset on cartridge called Oboe that match it quite well.

Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 4:48 pm
by gcoudert
The mizmar preset on the E-mu EIIIX CD "World Instruments" (Volume 5) sound very close with a little editing.

*Edit*: sorry, the MIDJWIZ sample, not the mizmar sample. Adding mod wheel vibrato helps conceal the loop.

Gilles

Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 4:55 pm
by onetwothree
WTF?

YouTube just told me that that video is not available in my country. ???

Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 6:37 pm
by gfriden
onetwothree wrote:WTF?

YouTube just told me that that video is not available in my country. ???
You from The People's Republic of China?

Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 9:25 pm
by intercorni
Live is this sound played with the Melodica ;-)

Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 9:53 pm
by onetwothree
gfriden wrote:
onetwothree wrote:WTF?

YouTube just told me that that video is not available in my country. ???
You from The People's Republic of China?
No, Canada.

Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 10:16 pm
by waveterm
onetwothree wrote:
gfriden wrote:
onetwothree wrote:WTF?

YouTube just told me that that video is not available in my country. ???
You from The People's Republic of China?
No, Canada.
:?:

Same for me......

and I´m from the same country as you gfriden.......or am I ?

WT

Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 1:01 am
by ERIC31
That's one of my favorite DM songs of all time!! One of the very groups that made me want to play synths in the first place! :D

Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 2:30 am
by Yoozer
onetwothree wrote:WTF?

YouTube just told me that that video is not available in my country. ???
Content owners are stupid morons who don't get the "inter" part of the "internet".

Solution: http://www.labnol.org/internet/video/yo ... ntry/2680/