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Worst Roland Synth EVER!

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 10:52 am
by BlackGnosis
Whats your vote everyone? I'm curious to see what you all think.


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I have two synths in mind. Either the Roland D-5 due to poor voicing or the TB-303 due to how obnoxiously complicated it was, maybe intuitive at the time, but you needed to spend about 6-7 hours of good experimentation before getting a grasp of how to work it.

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 11:39 am
by JJQ
Roland, bad synths???

Dont know any. :)

Re: Worst Roland Synth EVER!

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 12:24 pm
by Syn303
BlackGnosis wrote:Whats your vote everyone? I'm curious to see what you all think.


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I have two synths in mind. Either the Roland D-5 due to poor voicing or the TB-303 due to how obnoxiously complicated it was, maybe intuitive at the time, but you needed to spend about 6-7 hours of good experimentation before getting a grasp of how to work it.
What the 303? No! GTFO :roll: the sequencer is easy to use, once you have mastered it like i have. Besides it's the quirky sequencer that gives the 303 it's special character.

The worst Roland's would have to be the MC-303, MC-09 & EG-101. Roland mainly produce re-packaged c**p these days. And Revive old synth names cause they have ran out of ideas.

Re: Worst Roland Synth EVER!

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 12:59 pm
by OriginalJambo
Syn303 wrote:Roland mainly produce re-packaged c**p these days. And Revive old synth names cause they have ran out of ideas.
Agreed, although the V-Synth is a rare exception.

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 1:49 pm
by Jexus
JX-1 ?
I'm not familiar with the sound.
But the looks are horrible.
Anyone played it ?

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 2:23 pm
by AstroDan
XP-10. Do I win?

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 2:25 pm
by Z
Jexus wrote:JX-1 ?
I'm not familiar with the sound.
But the looks are horrible.
Anyone played it ?
Yeah, these came out in the early 90's when I worked at GC. It was basically a ROMpler in a flashy case trying to revive the "rocker" keyboard market. Has nothing to do with the original JX line. I don't remember selling a single one. The JV-80 & JV-30 were more capable and better sellers back then.

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 2:36 pm
by Yoozer
Jexus wrote: Anyone played it ?
The organ sound in Felix - Don't You Want Me came out of the JX-1. I've played one - the keys were passable (not as bad as those of the Korg Micro-X, go figure), and the sounds cut through the mix pretty well. Plus, it had a nice monophonic lead (with delay effect) and a very nice set of atmo pad sounds (for that time).

Its main advantages were that it could cut and that it didn't weigh anything. The DX7 and JX3P I had to drag with me in the summer weather for a mile to some gig were far worse ;).

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 2:56 pm
by tyrannosaurus mark
sh-201

I had a play on one of these in a shop the other week and it sounded just awful

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 3:06 pm
by Johnny Lenin
The problem with Roland, for synthheads, is that they don't just make synths for synthheads. The XP-10 was what it was -- an easy-to-use, inexpensive ROMpler with some reasonably good, and a few excellent acoustic presets. It's not a programmer's synth, but if you were in a bar band or playing in a church, it gave you all the basic pianos and organs you'd need -- and the pianos were quite good for the time.

The newer stuff, like the Juno-D/G, etc., are nothing like the 6/60/106 except in terms of pricepoint and target market. The fact that a Juno-D is no Juno-106 doesn't alter the fact that it's a reasonably well-made, extremely affordable entry-level ROMpler with some outstanding acoustic patches and some quite workable pads, etc.

Roland is actually a well-run business, focusing [at the $600-$1000 price point, in any event] on lower margins and higher volumes than Moog and DSI. They're not selling to synthheads because they know the guy who is offended by the way they repurposed the Juno name is probably going to buy a used synth, anyway. There's no profit in playing to the synthhead market at the $600-$1000 pricepoint, at least in terms of volume sales.

It's ridiculous to say that the Juno-D is a shitty synth because it's not a Juno-60, or that the XP-10 is a shitty synth because it's not a D-50. They are what they are.

Now the Korg X-50 [my first ROMpler!]... now there's a shitty synth. Crummy acoustic emulations, lousy interface, cheese-a*s keyboard, butt-ugly design, a papier-mache construction. [No wonder I returned it and got the Juno-D instead.]

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 3:19 pm
by ramos
tb-303? sacrilege!

its not hard to use at all.

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 4:07 pm
by V301H
I thought the D-70 was pretty bad. It should have better than a D-50, but wasn't even close. Not a particularly good master keyboard despite having 76 keys. Bought one new direct from Roland without trying it first. Fortunately I was able to sell it for what I paid.

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 4:13 pm
by aXL
I'll second the SH-201. That one, even when taking into consideration the Roland marketing strategy and business plan, is a PoS of proportions. Granted, it's very immediate thanks to its passable UI, but it's completely devoid of charm and good tone. It's basically a cheap rehash of the superior JP-80x0 synths, replete with a useless D-Beam implementation (done way better on the V-Synth and GT).

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 4:21 pm
by Alex E
MT-32, JX1, TB-303 (it has it's place in music history though...) MC-303

The D70 was orignally going to be called the U50 I think. They decided to go with the D name at the very end of development. I'm pretty sure it's just a rompler, so comparing it to the D50 is unfair in that regard. It should have just been the U50..

I tried a TB-303 twice. I wasn't familiar with it and I couldn't figure it out. If I could watch that nice tutorial on yotuube with it in front of me it probably would have been a lot of fun.

My MC-303 had a really stupid way of doing things with MIDI, quantization, recording, etc. What a stupid little box. What were they thinking? How hard would it be to remake the 303 with a cheapy VA engine with a faithful recreation of the 303 sound???
It's like Roland has forgotten everything that made them who they are today.

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 4:50 pm
by THM
I'd say almost any Roland synth that is not analog.
Only 3 exceptions (in order of timeline):
1° the TR-909 that is digital but still is one of the greatest drum machines ever
2° the JD-800/JD-990 that still has some great sounds and features
3° the JP-8000/JP-8080 that is imho still the greatest VA synth