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Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:28 pm
by Phollop Willing PA
Automatic Gainsay wrote:
Phollop Willing PA wrote:Andy is wise beyond compare (here). Can you plug these auto parts into a moogerfooger? :wink:
You can plug any guitar into a Moogerfooger... hee hee
True, but that wasn't my question... :cry:

Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:24 pm
by theglyph
Phollop Willing PA wrote:
Automatic Gainsay wrote:
Phollop Willing PA wrote:Andy is wise beyond compare (here). Can you plug these auto parts into a moogerfooger? :wink:
You can plug any guitar into a Moogerfooger... hee hee
True, but that wasn't my question... :cry:
You might be able to plug this:



into a fooger!

And quit a bit more expensive than the Moog guitar! :wink:

Cheers,
theglyph

Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:29 pm
by Phollop Willing PA
theglyph wrote:
Phollop Willing PA wrote:
Automatic Gainsay wrote: You can plug any guitar into a Moogerfooger... hee hee
True, but that wasn't my question... :cry:
You might be able to plug this:



into a fooger!

And quit a bit more expensive than the Moog guitar! :wink:


Cheers,
theglyph
Haha ha! Awesome...

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:36 am
by knolan
Why is there a thread about a guitar on a vintage synthesizer forum - and why hasn't the moderator moved it?

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:45 am
by Phollop Willing PA
knolan wrote:Why is there a thread about a guitar on a vintage synthesizer forum - and why hasn't the moderator moved it?
Jack Spider wrote:The Moog Guitar falls under a special VSE mandate, reserved for EPs, Organs and drum machines.

Plus, it shares 6-note polyphony, like many synths.

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:17 am
by knolan
Not to make too big a deal about it - but those justificatons are utterly rediculous. It's a guitar! This is a synthesizer forum!

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:32 am
by Joey
knolan wrote:Not to make too big a deal about it - but those justificatons are utterly rediculous. It's a guitar! This is a synthesizer forum!
two posts about it is already too big of a deal.

get over it, the moog guitar is totally relevant on this forum

it even has a ladder filter!

i think that is more than enough qualification for this forum

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:43 am
by otto
We got cats on this forum what's a guitar or two? :roll:

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:45 am
by Alex Hamilton
Not to make too big a deal about it - but those justificatons are utterly rediculous. It's a guitar! This is a synthesizer forum!
1). Judging by the number of replies in this thread, it appears that many people, despite being here for the synths, are actually very interested in this guitar and its fusion with synth technology.
2). Yeesh, it's one thread - it's not like you click into General and the whole forum is teens asking whether to buy a Strat or Les Paul. Don't want to know? Don't read it.

On another note - have we heard why it uses special custom gauge strings? Sounds like a pain in the arse to me - no guitarist wants to have to call up Moog or whoever's carrying the strings every four weeks to order a new set. And if the strings aren't special somehow, people will just replace them with Ernie Balls of the right size, in which case it's pointless for Moog to waste money on them in the first place.

My only real concern with the guitar is that in the interview the guy says manufacturing is going to be licensed out to a number of people - sounds like they could get a problem with quality control to me, but only time will tell.

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 2:36 am
by Mooger5
Much of the best synth music I listen to has guitars on it. Mike Oldfield, Michael Brook, Michael Rother, Froese, Fripp, Eno, Lanois, ... They use guitars as the means of expression keyboardists can´t achieve (but would like to). Plus, everytime there´s added processing, it´s electronic.

Here´s something relevant to a vintage synth forum for you to ramble on:

Wait a minute! ONE filter for ALL six voices? OMG they did it again! It´s a Paramoog Guitar!!! :lol:

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:01 am
by Automatic Gainsay
Joey wrote:get over it, the moog guitar is totally relevant on this forum

it even has a ladder filter!

i think that is more than enough qualification for this forum
What do you think a wah pedal is, Joseph? (not a ladder filter, but yeah)

It's not off-topic because the mods say it isn't, and for no other reason. The fact that people are into it, and the fact that it has a Moog label on it, and the fact that it has a filter in it mean nothing as justification. There are plenty of threads which have such abstract connections to synths which are deleted or moved for being off topic... often with condemnation. The point is, it's funny that a guitar thread is not off topic, and it's funny that the hard-and-fast rules are not so hard-and-fast. And, yes... that point has been made, addressed by mods, etc... now we can move on to further discussing the one guitar that isn't off-topic on VSE.

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:03 am
by Automatic Gainsay
Mooger5 wrote:Wait a minute! ONE filter for ALL six voices? OMG they did it again! It´s a Paramoog Guitar!!! :lol:
HA HA HA HA HA... it's the OPUS 3 of filter-totin' guitars!

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:47 pm
by Jack Spider
knolan wrote:Not to make too big a deal about it - but those justificatons are utterly rediculous. It's a guitar! This is a synthesizer forum!
Well, as moderator, I'm cutting Moog some slack on this one and allowing it, so there! :wink:

By the way, with regards to my justifications being ridiculous, this page might help:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humour
Automatic Gainsay wrote:It's not off-topic because the mods say it isn't, and for no other reason.
That's what I thought I said a few posts up, Marc - I haven't tried to deny this is Off Topic. Similarly, other non-synth instruments are allowed in General Synths which have as much in common with synths as as this guitar does. Talk of MIDI controllers is allowed on here - are they synths? We've had talk of the old Roland Synth Guitars in here in the past - they're not synthesisers either. I could go on, but I would just be being pedantic.
The fact that people are into it, and the fact that it has a Moog label on it, and the fact that it has a filter in it mean nothing as justification.
To you, perhaps.
There are plenty of threads which have such abstract connections to synths which are deleted or moved for being off topic... often with condemnation. The point is, it's funny that a guitar thread is not off topic, and it's funny that the hard-and-fast rules are not so hard-and-fast. And, yes... that point has been made, addressed by mods, etc... now we can move on to further discussing the one guitar that isn't off-topic on VSE.
This thread stays. If you have issues with this, please post them in Off Topic because General Synths is even less a place for them than the Moog Guitar. If you feel really strongly about this one subject being in General Synths, PM the admin, Vintagesynth.

I've already explained to you that the 'rules' have been bent just because it's from Moog (stone the crows - an exception has been made!!). I felt that it was too interesting a subject to be washed away in Off Topic. Yes, it is Off Topic - nobody has denied it.

Now please, stop derailing the thread and get off your soapbox, Marc, because my high horse is a lot taller. What you're doing is no different to a lot of the behaviour that you are lambasting.

Right then, my advice, is that if people don't like this thread, to stay out of it - I was prepared to allow a bit of banter in this thread, but it's turning into another mod-bashing session and I'm not putting up with it.

Unless it's Moog Guitar-related, do NOT post in this thread.

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 5:01 pm
by Automatic Gainsay
Apologies to the mods... I wasn't bashing, just teasing... embracing the perversity of the situation.

Regarding the guitar:

I was thinking how cool subsequent versions would be if they had trigger buttons for the automatic vibration of each of the strings... you could play it like a six key keyboard!

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 5:32 pm
by Phollop Willing PA
Automatic Gainsay wrote:
I was thinking how cool subsequent versions would be if they had trigger buttons for the automatic vibration of each of the strings... you could play it like a six key keyboard!
Great idea!

I wouldn't be surprised if someone adopted a keyboard adaption for this guitar.