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Post by Synthaholic » Sun Jul 13, 2008 9:26 pm

Architecture wrote:I still want to program some of my own sounds still, just to say I can program a LAS synth.
It can be a PITA to program without a PG-1000 but your efforts will be well rewarded. The range of sounds you can get out of the "big D" is impressive. It can sound surprisingly analog for a vintage digital synth.
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Post by Architecture » Sun Jul 13, 2008 10:03 pm

im not that interested in getting analog sounds out of it, but I want that digital sound as I have enough analog in my setup already.

Now my current dilema, to get a JD990 and forgo the PG1000 or to get a PG1000 and forget getting a JD990?

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Post by waveterm » Mon Jul 14, 2008 12:31 am

Architecture wrote:im not that interested in getting analog sounds out of it, but I want that digital sound as I have enough analog in my setup already.

Now my current dilema, to get a JD990 and forgo the PG1000 or to get a PG1000 and forget getting a JD990?
Get the PG1000 and learn the D550 inside and out.

Damn you, you´ve made me lust for a D550/PG1000. I had them years ago and never really got into them properly. I was more obsessed with getting a Waveterm.....

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Post by Architecture » Mon Jul 14, 2008 12:46 am

well I just won a JD990 as well.

hahahahahahaha.

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Post by waveterm » Mon Jul 14, 2008 12:56 am

No PG-1000 for you then !

How much did you get the JD for ?

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Post by Architecture » Mon Jul 14, 2008 2:12 am

Ill be getting the PG1000 as well since I got the JD990 for 355 USD.

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Post by bgi » Mon Jul 14, 2008 2:28 am

Architecture wrote:well I just won a JD990 as well.

hahahahahahaha.
SWEET!!!

You'll love it. Something about it is very "musical" compared to other synths. You'll not find that gritty dirty sweetness of the D-50/550, but it's altogether another "sweet" sound. JD is the pad monster.
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Post by Z » Mon Jul 14, 2008 3:27 am

Architecture wrote:well I just won a JD990 as well.
Now you'll need a JD-800 to programm the 990!

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Post by bgi » Mon Jul 14, 2008 3:34 am

Z wrote:
Architecture wrote:well I just won a JD990 as well.
Now you'll need a JD-800 to programm the 990!
HAHAHA. Don't we all! I wish I had room for one. Poor AN1x got shoved into the closet with the DSS-1 and D-550 last week.
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Post by Architecture » Mon Jul 14, 2008 3:47 am

is 355 dollars too much for a stock mint condition JD990? Someone was saying they got theirs for 400 with the vintage board.

Will any of the other JV boards work with the machine?

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Post by Z » Mon Jul 14, 2008 3:56 am

All of the JV80 expasion boards will work with the JD-990. The Vintage Synth board has extra patches specficially for the 990.

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Post by Architecture » Mon Jul 14, 2008 3:58 am

I was interested in the Techno expansion board, since I want to make more on the lines of Ken Ishii and more on the psytrance side of things.

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Post by Don Solaris » Mon Jul 14, 2008 9:58 am

Architecture wrote:Ill be getting the PG1000 as well
I will be very honest here (this comes from someone who built two banks before getting the PG-1000). The last D-50 i bought came with PG-1000. I was so excited of finally having the "knobs on" experience. Unfortunately the reality is very different! It goes something like this:

One single patch has hundreds of parameters. Lets say you load some sound you made month ago and no longer remember its settings. You connect PG-1000 and then... you don't know where to go, which parameter has which value (unless you manually check each one of those hundred parameters). As soon as you move a slider you risk of screwing up your patch.

If you look at the picture of a PG-1000 it doesn't reveal its true depth(!). Most of sliders have double features. Then lets say you built Tone 1 and now started editing Tone 2. Then you figure out you want to change something in Tone 1. PROBLEM. You no longer have sliders in position they were while editing Tone 1.

I sold PG-1000 and switched to freeware editor D-50 VE. Unfortunately it has some minor bugs, but when you edit your patch you exactly know which tones you edited and see their parameters on the screen. It is trivial to go from Tone to Tone and precisely set or retune some parameters. Such task on PG-1000 takes 10 x more time.

After losing hours and hours with PG-1000 i realized my work was much faster with the editor - because at each moment i am fully informed of all the parameters and their values. Only benefit of PG-1000 was setting envelopes.

My advice is to stay away from PG and go with editor. There is also a fantastic Soundquest editor for D-50 which has every parameter shown on screen. Not freeware but worth the money. Here is a screenshot.

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Post by waveterm » Mon Jul 14, 2008 10:15 am

You know, that´s why you need multiple PG´s. One for each tone.

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Post by bgi » Mon Jul 14, 2008 2:49 pm

Don Solaris wrote: I sold PG-1000 and switched to freeware editor D-50 VE.
Which freeware D-50 editor, this one?

http://users.encounters.be/D50VE/feat.html

Found several sources to the same one. http://www.d50ve.w3.to/
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