Synth design challenge

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Post by crystalmsc » Thu Jul 24, 2008 6:27 am

one of the best thread ever! really enjoy these kind of fresh synth designs.
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Post by clubbedtodeath » Sun Jul 27, 2008 11:27 pm

I'll sticky this for a bit.

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Post by cbjlietuva » Mon Aug 04, 2008 3:21 am

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I'll have a 3D version soon :wink:

The parameters for each function on the synth is controlled with the "parameter" and "value" knobs which correspond to the LEDs next to the one you're editing in the middle there. The 'sub' functions- e.g. on an envelope generator you'd have attack, decay, sustain and release- will load up on the knobs. for real time tweak, you can 'lock' any or all of the parameters:

e.g. Say you're editing VCO 1 and you want to have the PWM constantly up for live tweaking, you hit the lock button, and then you switch any of the knobs to the another parameter and you have access to that, but you sill have VCO 1 PWM on the knob you've locked.

The knobs then are merely for each parameter and their corresponding value. the parameter number (in the case when you have parameters that either don't fit or are forced off the default display when you 'lock' a parameter) will appear on the main red LED display at the bottom, and when you turn the value knob the display will switch to the value of that parameter.

The 'Parameter filter' knob can be used to limit what parameters are accessible for easier and less confusing editing and tweaking. e.g. you switch to 'MIDI' and only the MIDI master parameters are accessible on the editing/tweaking area, switch to off, and they are all accessible.

To save a patch, you simply hit copy while you're editing and select a patch and hit paste- a query will ask to confirm to prevent accidental overwrites.

The modulation matrix to the far right is mostly self explanatory, borrowing from EMS's synthi series, using simple pin configurations, although on MoSyn pins can be 'stacked' and 'wired' (bent) for more possibilities and there's a 'random' patch which is connected to the memory's CPU which will randomly select a source to the marked destination.

the pins '1' '2' '3' correspond to the knobs marked. they are essentially control voltages/value pots for more dedicated tweaking rather than using the parameter/value section's 'lock' function.

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Post by esoteric » Sat Aug 09, 2008 12:48 am

audible wrote:3-VCO, 3-LFO drone box:

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Red knobs control the VCOs pitch. Their waveform is switchable via the three upper right buttons.

Blue knobs control the LFOs rate. They share the same waveform which is switchable via the lower right button.

Gray knobs control the FM amount between each pair of elements in the direction pointed by the arrows.

Like many feedback based configurations, it should sound nasty and unpredictable.
Man, I just put this thing together in the G2 demo, and it sounds awesome! Truly wicked noise. I'm loving it. I especially like lowering one of the LFOs down to way low. You get a fantastic evolving racket.

It's unfortunate you're already out of knobs, because this thing wants a filter. For even more fun, patch the sum of the three oscillators into the filter for some FM there too. I added a crossfader after that to pan between pre- and post-filter signals. Resonant low-pass pumping up the bass frequencies while the pre-filter rips and tears is awesome.
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Post by audible » Sat Aug 09, 2008 1:56 am

esoteric wrote: Man, I just put this thing together in the G2 demo, and it sounds awesome! Truly wicked noise. I'm loving it. I especially like lowering one of the LFOs down to way low. You get a fantastic evolving racket.

It's unfortunate you're already out of knobs, because this thing wants a filter. For even more fun, patch the sum of the three oscillators into the filter for some FM there too. I added a crossfader after that to pan between pre- and post-filter signals. Resonant low-pass pumping up the bass frequencies while the pre-filter rips and tears is awesome.
Glad you liked the Fraudible. I should patent it. :)

I don't like having total control over an instrument all the time. I'd rather listen it go its own sweet way. (Self-imposed limitations can be inspiring as well.) Needless to say, the G2x is an awesome tool for unpredictable noodles. I'll try and add your suggestions to my own patch whenever I have a spare moment. In the meantime, would you care to post some samples?
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Re: MoSyn

Post by JayEm » Sat Aug 23, 2008 6:33 pm

cbjlietuva wrote: Image
no mod wheel? wha?
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Re: ******** STICKY: Synth design challenge ********

Post by THM » Tue Sep 02, 2008 8:32 pm

I love this thread !!
Great imagination and design talents (well errrm... some are better than others) here !!

The price for the most original goes to the boom-erang. =D>
Btw: the price for the most ab-original too... :lol:
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Re: ******** STICKY: Synth design challenge ********

Post by audible » Tue Sep 02, 2008 8:36 pm

More entries needed.
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Re: ******** STICKY: Synth design challenge ********

Post by thosquanta » Wed Sep 03, 2008 5:50 pm

huh. i'm going to have to rig up the fraudible on my micro mod...

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Re: ******** STICKY: Synth design challenge ********

Post by Janner » Fri Sep 05, 2008 2:21 pm

Here is my pocketrocket. Its monophonic and there is no midi and preset slots. Those three leds are for power / external cv source / external audio activity. Those yellow/pink buttons are regular on/off switches.

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Re: ******** STICKY: Synth design challenge ********

Post by radek tymecki » Sun Sep 07, 2008 1:07 pm

My friend has made sth

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Re: ******** STICKY: Synth design challenge ********

Post by OriginalJambo » Mon Sep 15, 2008 3:23 am

That Bromus looks classy to me. I want one. :D

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Post by crystalmsc » Mon Sep 15, 2008 5:49 am

OriginalJambo wrote:That Bromus looks classy to me. I want one. :D
That Moog VS synth looks good to me too.
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