HIT THAT PERFECT BEAT! [Bronski Beat.]

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Re: HIT THAT PERFECT BEAT! [Bronski Beat.]

Post by Untouchable_888 » Sun Aug 10, 2008 4:48 pm

Bitexion wrote:But we've all seen examples of bands showing a ridiculous amount of gear in videos that were never present on the actual songs on the albums. Flashy factor. Top of the pops comes to mind. Like "playing" chords on a SH-101.
I was thinking about "I Ran" by Flock of Seagulls. It does not look to me that he is actually playing the music.
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Re: HIT THAT PERFECT BEAT! [Bronski Beat.]

Post by Micke » Sun Aug 10, 2008 6:25 pm

They're lip-syncing in that video. While you can see them with a Roland SH-09 in the video, the song was actually recorded with a Korg MS-10 (bass) and Korg Delta (strings).
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Re: HIT THAT PERFECT BEAT! [Bronski Beat.]

Post by Untouchable_888 » Sun Aug 10, 2008 6:34 pm

Micke wrote:They're lip-syncing in that video. While you can see them with a Roland SH-09 in the video, the song was actually recorded with a Korg MS-10 (bass) and Korg Delta (strings).
In "I Ran?"
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Re: HIT THAT PERFECT BEAT! [Bronski Beat.]

Post by Micke » Sun Aug 10, 2008 7:44 pm

Yes, at least in this video:
"The (Yamaha) CS-80 is a step ahead in keyboard control, and a generation behind in digital control" -- Dan Wyman, Jan 1979

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Re: HIT THAT PERFECT BEAT! [Bronski Beat.]

Post by polar69 » Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:51 pm

Sorry to dredge up an old thread but its such a good one.

I first became aware of Bronski beat when I was at school, along with Depeche Mode they were one of the first bands that made me sit up and listen to synth based music.

It was whilst watching them perform "Why" that I realised there had to be more to a synth than just the sound engine, it wasn't until much later I satisfied my curiosity and started looking into sequencers etc.

Anyway enough rambling, Im wondering how I can reproduce the lead from "Why" sounds like something going through a ring mod


Can be heard here at 0:00:30


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Re: HIT THAT PERFECT BEAT! [Bronski Beat.]

Post by sam » Fri Jan 01, 2010 2:29 pm

I saw them live at the hacienda ...They were using 2 jupiter 8's.
Roland Vp330 mk1.SH101.juno 6.OSCar.ARP odyssey..Tonus 2600..omni.
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Re: HIT THAT PERFECT BEAT! [Bronski Beat.]

Post by polar69 » Sun Jan 03, 2010 10:32 am

I love matrixsynth


This http://matrixsynth.blogspot.com/2010/01 ... e-why.html posted today



Led me to this guy

http://www.youtube.com/user/DX5#p/u/0/Mna4cCDQCdc


Not come across him before

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Re: HIT THAT PERFECT BEAT! [Bronski Beat.]

Post by Micke » Sun Jan 03, 2010 10:23 pm

polar69 wrote:
Anyway enough rambling, Im wondering how I can reproduce the lead from "Why" sounds like something going through a ring mod


Can be heard here at 0:00:30

They used to use a Memorymoog for the lead sound on "Why" when performing that song live back in the mid '80s. However, I don't think that synth was used on the original studio version. Mike Thorne, the producer of the Age Of
Consent album, told me a while ago that Larry used a DX-7 during the recording sessions so that's possibly the one
used for the lead (although he wasn't sure). The big pads were from Thorne's Synclavier though and his 4-panel Serge system was used for the high-pitched percussive sequence during the break along with varying pitches of a side-stick sample (on its chip). The bass was sequenced from the Synclavier via MIDI but he could not remember what they used for the sound source.
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Re: HIT THAT PERFECT BEAT! [Bronski Beat.]

Post by polar69 » Sun Jan 03, 2010 10:30 pm

You sir are a gent :)

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Re: HIT THAT PERFECT BEAT! [Bronski Beat.]

Post by michael stein » Thu Jan 07, 2010 9:32 pm

So are the brass instruments synclavier on soft cells albums and not a real player.....and what about thomas leer could this be the same for him too? if so i was fooled by them saxophonez.

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Re: HIT THAT PERFECT BEAT! [Bronski Beat.]

Post by Micke » Sun Jan 10, 2010 7:23 pm

Yes, the brass and French horns on the first Soft Cell albums are Synclavier II, and the same goes for the strings/pads.
Alot of those sounds were Mike Thorne's own FM creations (no sampling was used).
The Saxophone and Clarinet (played by Dave Tofani) are real though.

Mike bought his first Synclavier in the spring/summer of 1979 (the original model*), its debut being on Urban Verb's
first album. In late 1980 or thereabouts he upgraded to a Synclavier II which was first used on the Memoirs of a Survivor soundtrack, and subsequently on Soft Cell's albums Non Stop Erotic Cabaret, Non Stop Ecstatic Dancing, The Art Of Falling Apart as well as Bronski Beat's "The Age Of Consent" and The Communards self-titled debut album.

I mentioned in a previous post that Mike's Serge modular system was initially a 4-panel one but I was wrong, it was
an 8-panel system.

*) "My first Synclavier had a Yamaha CS80 ribbon controller incorporated replaced later with the inferior standard version after Yamaha caught on as to why they were buying all these ‘spares’. I didn’t want the square control panel, inconvenient at 90 degrees, so I commissioned a special housing with an angle that anticipated the Sync II, to which I upgraded later".
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Re: HIT THAT PERFECT BEAT! [Bronski Beat.]

Post by masstronaut » Mon Feb 08, 2010 1:29 am



I consider it my duty to share this in this thread. Lyrically might be a bit nsfw.

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