what makes an instrument "professional"?

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what makes an instrument "professional"?

Post by killanator » Thu Oct 30, 2008 6:24 am

me and a friend at school got into this argument today. She has a radioshack keyboard and i called it a toy. however she has gigged with it before(sadly). i wondered, what exactly makes something professional? is it the way you use it or what the company calls it or is their a certain level of sophistocation it requires?

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Re: what makes an instrument "professional"?

Post by RobotHeroes » Thu Oct 30, 2008 6:26 am

It has to come with a big sticker on it that has "PRO" or "Professional" written on it. And no you can't add one it has to already be there from the Pro factory.

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Re: what makes an instrument "professional"?

Post by Gianni » Thu Oct 30, 2008 6:30 am

-No speakers.

-World recognition.

-+100 pro points if someone famous uses it currently.

-Professional looks.

-Says so in the box it came.

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Re: what makes an instrument "professional"?

Post by Thetimeplease » Thu Oct 30, 2008 6:31 am

what makes an instrument "professional"?
The 'professional' that's playing it? :-k

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Re: what makes an instrument "professional"?

Post by Stab Frenzy » Thu Oct 30, 2008 7:36 am

Wow, a new low for threads on VSE, helping teenagers win arguments at school! =D>

The MG-1 is a radio shack keyboard, does that make in not professional? Should I tell me friend who tours with one that he should sell it and buy something 'professional'? I saw Maximillian Hecker play at the Sydney Opera House on a (new) Casio with built in speakers in an event sponsored by the Goethe Institute, did he fool us all by playing a home keyboard?

Your friend gigged with it, good on her. You're only kids anyway, if she keeps trying she'll get better. You can't expect people to be great at everything as soon as they try. Go apologise to her for being a dumb-arse.

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Re: what makes an instrument "professional"?

Post by xpander » Thu Oct 30, 2008 8:12 am

to me it's features. you can use a toy in professional/commercial music but they generally lack features and build quality.

also, if you get it as a christmas present from macy*s, it's a classic:

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Re: what makes an instrument "professional"?

Post by Christopher Winkels » Thu Oct 30, 2008 10:43 am

With relatively few exceptions (the aforementioned MG-1 being one, arguably) the best threshold test I can think of is the question "Is this product sold anywhere other than a music store?"

If the answer is yes, the instrument probably isn't "professional". I'm thinking of you, Casio $199.00 Costco special with keys that light up red. The MG-1 certainly has non-pro written all over it (RCA jacks rather than 1/4" or even 1/8" outputs), but it gets a pass for being embraced by actual musicians later on. The exception to every rule.

Of course the inverse isn't always true. I've seen plenty of music stores flogging home organs and digital pianos to make up the sales volume numbers.

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Re: what makes an instrument "professional"?

Post by mome rath » Thu Oct 30, 2008 12:04 pm

god doesnt make keyboards professional

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Re: what makes an instrument "professional"?

Post by tallowwaters » Thu Oct 30, 2008 12:23 pm

So is this your schtick, creating useless navel gazing threads?
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Re: what makes an instrument "professional"?

Post by Jabberwalky » Thu Oct 30, 2008 2:07 pm

My advice.

The friend at school is a chick, so obviously you should stop giving her s**t about using a "toy" keyboard, and try to get with her

You've got a little phatty you could use to your advantage here

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Re: what makes an instrument "professional"?

Post by Johnny Lenin » Thu Oct 30, 2008 2:11 pm

It's actually an interesting question.

While professionals can use any gear, whether something is professional is, I imagine determined by the vendor's marketing department. If it's targeted at gigging and would-be gigging musicians and advertised in SOS and Keyboard magazine, it's professional. If it's advertised in the Christmas Shopper's guide and targeted at home users, it's "consumer." If it's sort of halfway --- "consumer" with "professional" features with "consumer" build quality -- and sold in either the general or the specialty channel, it's prosumer.

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Re: what makes an instrument "professional"?

Post by clubbedtodeath » Thu Oct 30, 2008 2:20 pm

Jabberwalky wrote:obviously you should stop giving her s**t about using a "toy" keyboard, and try to get with her
Precisely. Because some day, your female peers will all have saggy tits.

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Re: what makes an instrument "professional"?

Post by clubbedtodeath » Thu Oct 30, 2008 2:25 pm

Johnny Lenin wrote:It's actually an interesting question.
Don't you mean: "I think it's an interesting question" ?

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What is and what is not deemed professional is highly subjective; I bought a Yamaha SW1000XG soundcard once, whilst being warned that it was only "semi-professional". And in a way, the salesman was right: a sizeable minority of the XG sounds are pretty naff.

However, that didn't stop me tweaking and layering to get some pretty damned professional-sounding stuff out of it, especially when layered with other synths.

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Re: what makes an instrument "professional"?

Post by cornutt » Thu Oct 30, 2008 2:26 pm

If it has a button labeled "bossa nova", it's probably not professional. :lol:
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Re: what makes an instrument "professional"?

Post by SteelWav » Thu Oct 30, 2008 2:47 pm

Well the SK-1 has a Bossa Nova button, but I think the SK series doesn't count.
However, my Hammond with integratred Leslie has a Bossa Nova button. So I'd rectify and I'd say that what makes an instrument professional is the lack of a Demo button. Now let's see who finds a counterexample.

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