Elka Synthex "Laserharp" sound... How?

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Re: Elka Synthex "Laserharp" sound... How?

Post by Bitexion » Sat Nov 08, 2008 11:35 pm

Bitexion still has it lying around. The key is an exotic modulation where you modulate PWM with the other oscillator.
That's why the timbre is so difficult to get just right on other, lesser synths. And hard sync naturally.
Here's all the exact settings posted by JMP. Note the "Waveform OSC1 PWM". Very rare modulation on most synths.
An envelope sweeps the pitch of the hardsynced oscillator downwards for the characteristic baoooooooo sound.
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synthex laserharp

LFO - Triangle Waveform routed to PW2. Depth 3. Frequency 3. Delay 0.
Tuning - OSC2 Sync On.
OSC 1 - 8' Octave. Transpose 0. Pulse Waveform. Pulse Width -1 (of -5 to +5). Volume 7.
OSC 2 - 2' Octave. Transpose 7 (of 0 to 12). Waveform OSC1 PWM + Ring Mod. Pulse Width -1. Volume 7.
Glide - OSC2 Glide. Speed 10. Amount 2.
Filter - Low Pass. Resonance 0. Frequency 5. Keyboard 10. Envelope 5.
Chorus setting - 1 (Lowest of three).
Filter Envelope - Attack 0. Decay 2. Sustain 2. Release 0.
Amp Envelope - Attack 0. Decay 5. Sustain 5. Release 3.
Release envelope ON.

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Re: Elka Synthex "Laserharp" sound... How?

Post by JMP » Sun Nov 09, 2008 2:54 pm

Soundwave wrote:
wickfut wrote:and I thought I was the only person into synths in Preston (well it seemed that way when I went upstairs in soundcontrol)
You'd be very surprised at some of the synths that can be found around these parts bud.

I even saw a Synthex up for sale here in Preston a little while ago.
Must of missed that one, thought my old one I sold last year was the last to come up round these parts. I'm also in Preston by the way. :) Oh yes, upstairs at Sound Control WAS a proper graveyard of activity, probably why it didn't last. Been taken over though now I think, anyone been in ?

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Re: Elka Synthex "Laserharp" sound... How?

Post by THM » Mon Nov 10, 2008 1:46 pm

Yoozer wrote:
THM wrote:On other synths it's hard (read: impossible) to recreate exactly this sound.
"Exactly" - probably. But "awfully close"? Sure! http://www.perkristian.net/Virus_KB_Audio.htm -> LaserHarp.
Well I agree that comes pretty close indeed.
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Re: Elka Synthex "Laserharp" sound... How?

Post by wickfut » Tue Nov 11, 2008 1:42 am

JMP wrote:
Soundwave wrote:
Must of missed that one, thought my old one I sold last year was the last to come up round these parts. I'm also in Preston by the way. :) Oh yes, upstairs at Sound Control WAS a proper graveyard of activity, probably why it didn't last. Been taken over though now I think, anyone been in ?
Yeah I went in , I was about to go upstairs and the manager (I think he used to be the old manager too) advised me not to bother because it was all organs and home keyboards until they get their s**t together.

I'll probably pop in for some midi cables or something in the next week and try and stealth sneak my way upstairs this time
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Re: Elka Synthex "Laserharp" sound... How?

Post by Dividedbyzero » Wed Nov 12, 2008 1:47 pm

I was lucky enough to obtain the multi samples of the Synthex preset back when Steve Howell gave away tons of vintage samples on his Hollow Sun site. I also bought a couple of his sample CD’s a few years ago and he sent a free DVD with all the samples that are now in Zero-G’s Nostalgia package. I think it was in there too. Sounds great, I keep it loaded into my Fantom for when a Rendez-Vous moment stikes.

I also have some multi-samples of the Eminent Organ Strings from Oxygene etc from the same source. Shame he had to sell all the rights away and stop the downloads but everyone took the free stuff and didn’t buy the products. He still has some great free stuff though if you have an Alesis Fusion (?)

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Re: Elka Synthex "Laserharp" sound... How?

Post by Synthigraphie » Wed Nov 12, 2008 2:20 pm

You can find free soundfonts of the laser harp here : http://www.hammersound.com/cgi-bin/soun ... tLength=15

This is a sound I am not able to reproduce, but on a JX-10 I could recreate the "other" laser harp used on Rendez Vous III

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Re: Elka Synthex "Laserharp" sound... How?

Post by Bitexion » Wed Nov 12, 2008 7:36 pm

I also found multisamples of the laserharp years ago somewhere. It's sampled from every C and G across 5 octaves, so it's more or less perfect across the keyboard.

The main strings melody is also synthex AFAIK.
Rendez-vous is known as his "synthex album" just like Revolutions is his "Roland D-50 album", and Zoolok is the "Fairlight CMI album". The synth bombed initially on the market because noone wanted a knobby analogue synth in 1984 when the new digital synths were all the jazz. But Jarre got it, used it all over the album, and suddenly everyone came running and wanted to buy one, but by then it was discontinued from Elka already. So it's a rare beast to find on ebay.

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Re: Elka Synthex "Laserharp" sound... How?

Post by tim gueguen » Thu Nov 13, 2008 12:14 am

FYI volume 15 of Make magazine has an article about someone who built their own laser harp, so you might want to check out your local library or magazine shop to see if they still have a copy.
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Re: Elka Synthex "Laserharp" sound... How?

Post by Bitexion » Thu Nov 13, 2008 12:53 am

Can find several articles online about how to build a laserharp. Some are both with pictures and video.
Mostly to prove that Jarre isn't faking it.

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Re: Elka Synthex "Laserharp" sound... How?

Post by Soundwave » Thu Nov 13, 2008 1:18 am

Tony at Oakley Soundsystems made an amazing polyphonic laserharp for the Jarrelook cover band.



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Re: Elka Synthex "Laserharp" sound... How?

Post by Joey » Thu Nov 13, 2008 3:57 am

one of my friends is having a laser harp built for him for when he goes on tour next year
No one cares, no one sympathizes,
so you just stay home and play synthesizers.

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