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Re: oddball synths

Post by 23 » Tue Nov 25, 2008 8:29 pm

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Re: oddball synths

Post by balma » Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:09 pm

Analogue Crazy wrote:Oh yeah, i forgot about the GS-1 and GS-2. One of them was used for the brass on 'Africa' by TOTO but both have been completely forgotten.

the sweet pad chordy synth sound. I love that sound

Also, the EX5 from Yamaha is an odditie

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The weird FDSP is exclusive for this synthesizer. It was a failure on sales.
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Re: oddball synths

Post by Micke » Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:40 pm

balma wrote:
Analogue Crazy wrote:Oh yeah, i forgot about the GS-1 and GS-2. One of them was used for the brass on 'Africa' by TOTO but both have been completely forgotten.

the sweet pad chordy synth sound. I love that sound
That's the CS-80. As I said in my previous post, the GS-1 was used for the kalimba sounds and the high organ part.

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Re: oddball synths

Post by Mooger5 » Wed Nov 26, 2008 1:34 am

Can´t think of a more oddball synth than this one. The pic on the database doesn´t do it enough justice.

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Re: oddball synths

Post by nvbrkr » Wed Nov 26, 2008 7:32 am

Don't know whether my choice would fit all the criteria posed on previous posts, but the Moog Source still baffles the h**l out of me each time I see it.

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Re: oddball synths

Post by Sir Ruff » Wed Nov 26, 2008 8:00 am

Joey wrote:
aXL wrote:The CS70M reminds me of Yamaha's biggest oddball: the GS1. The classy big brother of the DX7, the first proper FM synthesis-based synth (at least from Yamaha, if not the first period) and looking like some of their home pianos do now, appearance-wise. On the other hand, it subverts the oddball trope in that the synthesis method carried on and became a big hit, but the GS-1 itself is largely ignored in the history books.

The VSE lacks a proper page on the poor GS-1 as well, BTW.

my friend used to have the GS2 that the theme from ghostbusters was written on
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Re: oddball synths

Post by mavertron » Wed Nov 26, 2008 11:38 am

Analogue Crazy wrote:Oh yeah, i forgot about the GS-1 and GS-2. One of them was used for the brass on 'Africa' by TOTO but both have been completely forgotten.
i thought that was layered cs80?

great track, and a great patch..

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as for weird oddball synths, id have to second the 303 - totally terrible for what it was designed for, sequencer that makes no sense, have you ever tried to make it sound like a bass guitar????
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Re: oddball synths

Post by mavertron » Wed Nov 26, 2008 3:52 pm

answer my own question, its both, gs1 doing kalimba, cs80 doing the brass patch..

David Paich on the Yamaha keyboards used: "On 'Africa' you hear a combination of marimba with GS 1. The kalimba is all done with the GS 1; it's six tracks of GS 1 playing different rhythms. I wrote the song on CS-80, so that plays the main part of the entire tune." (Keyboard, 09/1995)

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Re: oddball synths

Post by mavertron » Wed Nov 26, 2008 4:28 pm

oops i just noticed mickes post above, that will teacj=h me to skim read.
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Re: oddball synths

Post by Micke » Wed Nov 26, 2008 4:29 pm

Yeah, David Paich said pretty much the same thing in the Oct '82 issue of Keyboard magazine:

"On "Africa" you hear a combination of Steve's dad playing marimba combined with GS-1....the kalimba is
all done with the GS-1. It's six tracks of GS-1 playing different rhythms. There's a high organ sound that's GS-1 and I wrote the song on the CS-80 so that plays the main part of the entire tune.

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Paich onstage with Toto back in 1982 (clockwise from lower left): Yamaha GS-1, Yamaha CS-80,
Roland Jupiter-8 and Steinway D grand piano.

In the same article/interview Steve Porcaro mentions that he just modified existing programs in the GS-1; "You load a strip into it and the programming module (there's only one in the United states) shows what the program looks like on four video screens. I would just start dicking with it, isolating different sections and seeing where different parts of the sound were coming from. I've always been attracted to those kind of instruments because I come from being a piano player. I love the touch sensivity, but from a synthesist's standpoint the non-programmability doesn't bother me all that much, because some of the sounds in it are just too kick-a*s to ignore."

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Re: oddball synths

Post by spookyman » Wed Nov 26, 2008 4:43 pm

Great Pic Micke ! :D

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Re: oddball synths

Post by aXL » Wed Nov 26, 2008 5:16 pm

Billy Currie of Ultravox also used the GS-1 on "Lament" (the title track) for the string pads. He can be seen playing it in two scenes in this vid here (at 1:30 and 4:30):

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And considering it was modded out of its Bob-given circuitry and back, Chris Cross' old Minimoog could technically also be considered an oddball, if we expand the definition to include extensive third-party modification.
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Re: oddball synths

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Re: oddball synths

Post by iProg » Thu Nov 27, 2008 11:43 am

Micke wrote:Yeah, David Paich said pretty much the same thing in the Oct '82 issue of Keyboard magazine:

"On "Africa" you hear a combination of Steve's dad playing marimba combined with GS-1....the kalimba is
all done with the GS-1. It's six tracks of GS-1 playing different rhythms. There's a high organ sound that's GS-1 and I wrote the song on the CS-80 so that plays the main part of the entire tune.

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Paich onstage with Toto back in 1982 (clockwise from lower left): Yamaha GS-1, Yamaha CS-80,
Roland Jupiter-8 and Steinway D grand piano.

In the same article/interview Steve Porcaro mentions that he just modified existing programs in the GS-1; "You load a strip into it and the programming module (there's only one in the United states) shows what the program looks like on four video screens. I would just start dicking with it, isolating different sections and seeing where different parts of the sound were coming from. I've always been attracted to those kind of instruments because I come from being a piano player. I love the touch sensivity, but from a synthesist's standpoint the non-programmability doesn't bother me all that much, because some of the sounds in it are just too kick-a*s to ignore."

Micke

Wonderful! :)

I guess everyone can hear the CS-80 doing the brass, that was not a surprise. I've always thought the kalimba/marimba doodle were the actual acoustic instruments, since the album was released a year before the DX-7 :D

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Re: oddball synths

Post by pflosi » Thu Nov 27, 2008 2:28 pm

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