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virus ti snow and the rest of virus ti series

Post by m_spiros303 » Sat Nov 29, 2008 3:20 am

hello to everyone,
i have a question about the virus ti snow synthesizer.wich are the deferences between the virus ti snow and the rest of virus ti series???are the deferences only the multitimbral and the polyohony??? what about the pachtes???are the bigger ti synthesizers have more sounds than the ti snow???cause in the site says

virus ti snow 512 ram & 512 rom
and the rest of virus ti 512 ram 2048 rom...what does this mean???

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Re: virus ti snow and the rest of virus ti series

Post by Joey » Sat Nov 29, 2008 8:14 am

lets see

the snow has 50 voices of polyphony vs the ti's 80

the snow has less ROM patches, which are patches that cannot be overwritten

they are the same synth engine though regardless of the polyphony difference
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Re: virus ti snow and the rest of virus ti series

Post by stikygum » Sat Nov 29, 2008 11:51 am

I think the Snow is nice deal of a synth. If you want keys, get the keyboard, otherwise I think the Snow will prove to be a good bang for the buck without compromising anything. You do get less knobs, but the interface looks very nice. You can always control over USB from your computer or knob box.
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Re: virus ti snow and the rest of virus ti series

Post by philbar » Sat Nov 29, 2008 1:02 pm

the snow is a cut down version of the full fat ti. you get less voices and less multi timbral area's

the full ti can use 16 different destinations for midi control ( i.e. it can play 16 patches at the same time) the snow 4.

the other thing about the snow is it uses one dsp.... not 2.

its not a big issue however.

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Re: virus ti snow and the rest of virus ti series

Post by m_spiros303 » Sat Nov 29, 2008 2:15 pm

Joey wrote:
the snow has less ROM patches, which are patches that cannot be overwritten
that means the virus ti snow has less sound bank than the bigger ti??? ok...the snow has 512 rom pachtes that they are not rewritable and the bigger has 2048 rom pachtes rewritable...Does this mean that the bigger ti has 1536 pachtes more or they are just init pachtes to compose and save your programed sounds?????

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Re: virus ti snow and the rest of virus ti series

Post by Joey » Sat Nov 29, 2008 5:25 pm

m_spiros303 wrote:
Joey wrote:
the snow has less ROM patches, which are patches that cannot be overwritten
that means the virus ti snow has less sound bank than the bigger ti??? ok...the snow has 512 rom pachtes that they are not rewritable and the bigger has 2048 rom pachtes rewritable...Does this mean that the bigger ti has 1536 pachtes more or they are just init pachtes to compose and save your programed sounds?????
it has 1536 more non overwritable presets.

the RAM banks are the ones that you can overwrite your own sounds onto

patch A127 in RAM is usually an init patch
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Re: virus ti snow and the rest of virus ti series

Post by philbar » Sat Nov 29, 2008 6:47 pm

and rom a125- 127 are basic patches as well.

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Re: virus ti snow and the rest of virus ti series

Post by stikygum » Sat Nov 29, 2008 10:52 pm

The real question is what is the difference between the black TI module and 5 octave keyboard to the white TI 3 octave board and the Snow.
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Re: virus ti snow and the rest of virus ti series

Post by Joey » Sun Nov 30, 2008 4:11 am

stikygum wrote:The real question is what is the difference between the black TI module and 5 octave keyboard to the white TI 3 octave board and the Snow.
outside of the snow having the above mentioned differences, the only differences between the other virus models are purely aesthetic

the synth engine is the same
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Re: virus ti snow and the rest of virus ti series

Post by aredj » Sun Nov 30, 2008 10:38 am

Also please remember that the ROM banks nowadays can be flashed with your own (or others) patches... (OS 2.7) and you have banks A - Z (over 3000 patches!)

You have to go into a utility to do it.. but the point is... is that you can change them if you like...

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Re: virus ti snow and the rest of virus ti series

Post by philbar » Sun Nov 30, 2008 10:59 pm

the keyboard 5 octave is semi weighted and is a joy to play. the polar is unweighted (but really nice).

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Re: virus ti snow and the rest of virus ti series

Post by synth3tik » Mon Dec 01, 2008 12:32 am

Personally I find the snow to be just right in terms of voicing and memory. 50 voice is good enough for almost any track, unless if you were to do "Switched on Bach ti" and didn't want to dump sequenced tracks to audio. Also the smaller amount if ROM in great IMO. One thing that has bugged me about synths from Roland, Yamaha, and the like is the mass amount of ROM compared to RAM. The ROMs are great for getting a feel of the synth but not much beyond that. I even think that Roland holds the rights to all their ROM sounds and they can not be used in production (I could totally be wrong). So when you have 2/3 of your sounds in ROM, they are essentially useless.

I still have yet to pick up a Virus Snow. I have been meaning to but currently I own not a single synth without at least an analog filter. This has kind of prevented me from getting the snow as it would break the analog chain, this is not important at all, but I am to geek.

Now that I think about it. They why I tend to write and record makes even the snow more synth then I would ever need as I use a more tapedeck or reel to reel style of recording.

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Re: virus ti snow and the rest of virus ti series

Post by philbar » Mon Dec 01, 2008 2:19 pm

you should try it if you use sequencers, like cubase, it really does allow for modulation of loads of parameters, simply from your sequencer.....

total integration is great.

Also the filter on the virus is wonderful.

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Re: virus ti snow and the rest of virus ti series

Post by balma » Tue May 05, 2009 6:31 pm

philbar wrote:the other thing about the snow is it uses one dsp.... not 2.
its not a big issue however.
It sounds like a big issue. I'm really concerned about this... found this, trying to find some thoughts about the difference between the $1200 Virus TI snow against the Virus TI desktop...

BTW, Depeche appears with a Virus TI on the new release Wrong...
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Re: virus ti snow and the rest of virus ti series

Post by jaypodesta » Tue May 05, 2009 6:46 pm

balma wrote:BTW, Depeche appears with a Virus TI on the new release Wrong...
When they played live on TV the other night Andy Fletcher played a TI Polar and the other guy (Peter Gordeno?) had a TI Keyboard - both also had other stuff...

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