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Depeche Mode Blasphemous Rumours Pad Sound

Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 1:04 am
by Joey
One of my favorite DM songs... Does anyone know what synth does the pad sound that runs throughout most of the song? It comes in at around 00:33

I'm pretty sure its gotta be a DX7, but I could be wrong.

Micke?

Re: Depeche Mode Blasphemous Rumours Pad Sound

Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 2:31 am
by xpander
Joey wrote:One of my favorite DM songs... Does anyone know what synth does the pad sound that runs throughout most of the song? It comes in at around 00:33

I'm pretty sure its gotta be a DX7, but I could be wrong.
you mean that oboe/bassoon sound? don't discount the Emulator, Fairlight or even PPG- they all seem to be fair game. too bad my old DX7IIFD is still at my parents' house, i have a pretty big library of factory patches that define a lot of 80s music. the sound i'm thinking about doesn't jump out as DX7 to me unlike the higher octave sequence playing throughout the whole thing.

around 2:48 there's a solo:
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Re: Depeche Mode Blasphemous Rumours Pad Sound

Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 2:45 am
by Solderman
That is the shawm sample, also used for the melody in Everything Counts, played on the Synclavier. It's just played at a lower pitch and is run through more effects. I think the only thing analog in that song is the bass: probably a Moog Source.

Re: Depeche Mode Blasphemous Rumours Pad Sound

Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 3:23 am
by Joey
I'm talking about the long evolving pads that come in, not the other one ... Or is that the same patch?

Re: Depeche Mode Blasphemous Rumours Pad Sound

Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 3:32 am
by waveterm
Solderman wrote:That is the shawm sample, also used for the melody in Everything Counts, played on the Synclavier. It's just played at a lower pitch and is run through more effects. I think the only thing analog in that song is the bass: probably a Moog Source.
How do you know it was played on the synclavier ?

WT

Re: Depeche Mode Blasphemous Rumours Pad Sound

Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 4:21 am
by cornutt
Where on earth did they find a shawm to sample?

Re: Depeche Mode Blasphemous Rumours Pad Sound

Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 5:04 am
by xpander
Solderman wrote:That is the shawm sample ...
that would explain why i couldn't place it as distinctly oboe or bassoon... a different double reed altogether.

Re: Depeche Mode Blasphemous Rumours Pad Sound

Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 7:35 pm
by michael stein
in the 2:48 solo it sounds layered with another similiar sound with more attack. Or is the pad part of the sound a result of lots of effects?

Re: Depeche Mode Blasphemous Rumours Pad Sound

Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 4:07 pm
by sandwich
waveterm wrote:
Solderman wrote:That is the shawm sample, also used for the melody in Everything Counts, played on the Synclavier. It's just played at a lower pitch and is run through more effects. I think the only thing analog in that song is the bass: probably a Moog Source.
How do you know it was played on the synclavier ?

WT

There is a very big chance it was. They used it extensively on that album. In an interview, Alan says sampling accounts for about 90% of the sounds used for the album. But they're not necessarily straightforward samples and certainly not library samples either. Alan was very fond of the additive and resynthesis capabilities of the synclavier. He made great use of that and samples could end up being resynthesised beyond recognition!! And don't forget that DM liked to layer sounds heavily too

Re: Depeche Mode Blasphemous Rumours Pad Sound

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 3:50 pm
by iProg
Solderman wrote:That is the shawm sample, also used for the melody in Everything Counts, played on the Synclavier. It's just played at a lower pitch and is run through more effects. I think the only thing analog in that song is the bass: probably a Moog Source.
The bass definately sounds like a moog.

Anyone knows what synth was used for the sequencer intro to "Told You So"?

Re: Depeche Mode Blasphemous Rumours Pad Sound

Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 7:58 am
by hotdave8t6
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Re: Depeche Mode Blasphemous Rumours Pad Sound

Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 7:58 pm
by JMP
Wow, that's some thread resurrection. :)

Haven't got the originals but an offer you the closest I ever got:


Re: Depeche Mode Blasphemous Rumours Pad Sound

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 3:30 pm
by madtheory
I'm pretty sure it's not a synth at all! It sounds a lot like the Hohner melodica that Martin Gore plays on "Everything Counts". Just add lots of reverse reverb, then more again.

I think the shawm is just a rumour- he mimes with one in the video for "Everything Counts". Live, he uses the melodica at 4'10":

Re: Depeche Mode Blasphemous Rumours Pad Sound

Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 8:51 am
by sandwich
madtheory wrote:I'm pretty sure it's not a synth at all! It sounds a lot like the Hohner melodica that Martin Gore plays on "Everything Counts". Just add lots of reverse reverb, then more again.

I think the shawm is just a rumour- he mimes with one in the video for "Everything Counts". Live, he uses the melodica at 4'10":
No there really is a Shawm sample in Everything Counts, the band themselves have mentioned it several times in various interviews over the years. The Hohner Melodica and Shawm samples are two completely different parts in the song. The Shawm is the two note part after the marimba type part with a trill at the start of the second line, and the melodica is in the middle 8 and end sections :)

Re: Depeche Mode Blasphemous Rumours Pad Sound

Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 7:16 pm
by madtheory
sandwich wrote:The Hohner Melodica and Shawm samples are two completely different parts in the song. The Shawm is the two note part after the marimba type part with a trill at the start of the second line, and the melodica is in the middle 8 and end sections :)
Completely different parts in the song yes, but both are reed instruments that sound very alike, because the shawm despite being a double reed has a presence peak like the Hohner, due to its shape. Plus there's a helluva lot of forward and reverse reverb. Such a simple reedy sound is going to end up quite "blurred".

Anyway, the point I was making is that it's not a synth!