New MFB-522 drum machine, now with more cowbell..

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Re: New MFB-522 drum machine, now with more cowbell..

Post by Sir Ruff » Tue Mar 10, 2009 4:43 am

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pricklyrobot wrote:Sweet, it has a Clap!

The 503 looked really cool, but the lack of Clap kept me away. But with Clap in place, maybe the 522 will be that analog improvement on the ER-1 that I've been looking for.
One thing that is rarely mentioned is that although the 502 has only 7 sounds, some sounds have more than one variation so there are in fact 2 kicks, 2 snares, long/short clap and a couple of others.
yeah, good point. This does really add a lot of variety to the sound. The different pitches of blippy bongos and toms plus high/low kick are great for complicated riddims.

However, I don't know how they could get away from another "808 sounding" machine with the design we're looking at. the 502s snare to me already sounds very 808-ish. very tight, and papery (like the 808). the kick is already super thumpy.
But it's irrelevant how close it sounds-if they just improved some of the instruments on the 502, it would be solid. The clap on the 502 is probably the weakest instrument, unless you think of it as a super snare. It doesn't sound bad as an "analog clap", but I think I've been indoctrinated by Roland as to what a clap should sound like! but then again, it's nice to have a box whose instruments sound nothing like anything else (well, other than older pre-808/909 era stuff).
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Re: New MFB-522 drum machine, now with more cowbell..

Post by JSRockit » Tue Mar 10, 2009 12:43 pm

I'm thinking it is basically the same as the 502...with added sounds. I hope I'm wrong.
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Re: New MFB-522 drum machine, now with more cowbell..

Post by Syn303 » Tue Mar 10, 2009 12:53 pm

From Manfred Fricke,

"A demo will be available soon. The sound of the MFB-522 is close to the TR-808."
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Re: New MFB-522 drum machine, now with more cowbell..

Post by JSRockit » Tue Mar 10, 2009 2:36 pm

Syn303 wrote:From Manfred Fricke,

"A demo will be available soon. The sound of the MFB-522 is close to the TR-808."
Wow... that makes things a lot more interesting... :P
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Re: New MFB-522 drum machine, now with more cowbell..

Post by 23 » Tue Mar 10, 2009 2:54 pm

On build quality, I own a Synth II (NOT A LITE) and as far as build quality is concerned, the thing really is pretty damn sturdy. It's osc do suffer from some drift issues but I can't say that it's anything so bad that I've found it to be a major a concern (a bit annoying a times, but nothing more).
The biggest concern I'd say with it is that I've found it worth while to get a noise gate for it.
Even this issue is nothing extremely bad, it's just evident.

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Re: New MFB-522 drum machine, now with more cowbell..

Post by StepLogik » Tue Mar 10, 2009 4:18 pm

23 wrote:
The biggest concern I'd say with it is that I've found it worth while to get a noise gate for it.
Even this issue is nothing extremely bad, it's just evident.
Yeah it was noisy but not too bad. The Juno chorus was much worse :)

I hope the 522 isn't noisy.

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Re: New MFB-522 drum machine, now with more cowbell..

Post by Sir Ruff » Tue Mar 10, 2009 4:52 pm

StepLogik wrote:
23 wrote:
The biggest concern I'd say with it is that I've found it worth while to get a noise gate for it.
Even this issue is nothing extremely bad, it's just evident.
Yeah it was noisy but not too bad. The Juno chorus was much worse :)

I hope the 522 isn't noisy.
the 502 does suffer from some noise issues, but it seems to be related to specific instruments like the cymbal. So if you're not using them, turning them down makes it go away. Also, has some annoying bleed, from hihats into other channels for example, but it's not the end of the world.
Noise and such seem to be less of his concern than just getting the product out, but he can only improve right? :)
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Re: New MFB-522 drum machine, now with more cowbell..

Post by Byrthfood » Tue Mar 10, 2009 5:00 pm

MFB stuff is not flimsy at all. just wanted to clear that up.
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Re: New MFB-522 drum machine, now with more cowbell..

Post by StepLogik » Tue Mar 10, 2009 5:40 pm

Byrthfood wrote:MFB stuff is not flimsy at all. just wanted to clear that up.
that's your opinion. just wanted to clear that up.

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Re: New MFB-522 drum machine, now with more cowbell..

Post by Byrthfood » Wed Mar 11, 2009 2:47 am

no it is a fact.
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Re: New MFB-522 drum machine, now with more cowbell..

Post by RobotHeroes » Wed Mar 11, 2009 4:30 am

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Byrthfood wrote:MFB stuff is not flimsy at all. just wanted to clear that up.
that's your opinion. just wanted to clear that up.
no it is a fact.
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Re: New MFB-522 drum machine, now with more cowbell..

Post by justinvm » Wed Mar 11, 2009 4:53 am

I have nothing but respect for MFB.

I own a synth 2 and I have to agree that the build quality is NOT flimsy. The pcbs are well manufactured and the potentiometers and other components are of decent quality. Whilst I have to say there are a few design decisions with the machine that I am not entirely happy with (both software and hardware) but the positives far out way the negatives.

The 522 has my very keen interest.

Just on a side note: After 2 years of use I managed to blow up the voltage regulator in my SYNTH 2 about 2 months ago by connecting it to an incorrect power supply. Manfred personally handled the repairs and was extremely prompt and helpful with email support.

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Re: New MFB-522 drum machine, now with more cowbell..

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Re: New MFB-522 drum machine, now with more cowbell..

Post by th0mas » Fri Mar 13, 2009 9:33 pm

MP3 demos are up (I saw via matrixsynth).

As for mfb stability, I own a MFB-503 and it's a little sketchy, I've had it crash 3 times and owned it for a week. Not sure what was up with that, maybe my PS is noisy.

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Re: New MFB-522 drum machine, now with more cowbell..

Post by matia » Fri Mar 13, 2009 9:48 pm

Here's the link (originally on matrixsynth) to the demo mp3

http://greenempire.hypnotix.de/download ... 2_demo.mp3

http://greenempire.hypnotix.de/download/mfb/522_B.mp3

I have a 503 and have had no problems. The toms are bit noisy but the kick and snare outs are clean. The kick on the 503 is massive and i love the snare. It has a total 909 feel and for my cash it's better at some things than our airbase.

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