snobbish question / best PW

[iProg]

I love the PWM on the Korg MS10. I actually like it so much that I rarely use the other waves. It's very bass-friendly.

Korg in 1977: "We don't need to put pulse width modulation on the MS-20, it has two oscillators! Pulse width modulation is only for faking a dual oscillator sound with a single oscillator. No one would ever want that on a dual oscillator synthesizer."

:::shakes fist at Korg backwards through time:::

Well, Yamaha was doing it right with the CS15. Too bad it doesn't sound as raw and dirty as the MS's. Imagine the Korg MS10, CS15 and MS20 having a really hardcore gangbang -----> Korgamaha CMS-17.

*3 OSC
*3 VCF (HP/LP/BP, all resonant and selfoscillating)
*Semi-modular
*PWM on all 3 OSC with 3 different dedicated PWM-LFOs
* Same pitchbend as on CS15

etc.

Haha that would be hardcore man!

Soon, my CS-15 will arrive from Japan!

[madtheory]

Another vote for Yamaha CS synths. Even the CS01 with its DCO has the same sweet PWM sound. I use a CS-5 and CS-10 together. Layered PWM is not really that useful I think, it's too much.

[BoxPhenom]

The Jupiter-4 makes great string sounds when pwm is used, one of its great assets.

I own a few of the synths mentioned in the thread.
My fave is the Ms-10, when modulated by the lfo, it's absolutely massive.
I couldn't believe it's not present on the Ms-20.
I think having that function makes the Ms-10 different enough than the Ms-20 to not be considered as a cheaper version.

I have a question :

Do you think a pwm'd 1-osc bass sound could be consistently fatter than a 2-osc bass sound due to absence of phasing between the oscillators?

[Automatic Gainsay]

Do you think a pwm'd 1-osc bass sound could be consistently fatter than a 2-osc bass sound due to absence of phasing between the oscillators?

It depends on your definition of "fat," of course.
However, I've always personally found that two-osc bass sounds lack the bassy depth and focus of one osc bass sounds... and since I would say that detuned oscillators do not fat make, my answer would be more towards "yes."

[Automatic Gainsay]

Another vote for Yamaha CS synths. Even the CS01 with its DCO has the same sweet PWM sound. I use a CS-5 and CS-10 together. Layered PWM is not really that useful I think, it's too much.

I never knew the CS01 had a DCO!!!!

Layered PWM is pretty intense, but I have found a few uses for it.

[Automatic Gainsay]

Well, Yamaha was doing it right with the CS15. Too bad it doesn't sound as raw and dirty as the MS's. Imagine the Korg MS10, CS15 and MS20 having a really hardcore gangbang -----> Korgamaha CMS-17.

*3 OSC
*3 VCF (HP/LP/BP, all resonant and selfoscillating)
*Semi-modular
*PWM on all 3 OSC with 3 different dedicated PWM-LFOs
* Same pitchbend as on CS15

etc.

I can see I need to make a CS-15 video.

That gangbang synth would be cool... as long as all three oscs and filters each had their own sets of envelopes and a separate VCA... and all three separate synths could be routed through each other at any point.

[BoxPhenom]

Yes fat is subjective, I think I meant massive in the bass department, lots of low-end without sounding too loud, that kind of thing

[premieklovn]

I can see I need to make a CS-15 video.

That gangbang synth would be cool... as long as all three oscs and filters each had their own sets of envelopes and a separate VCA... and all three separate synths could be routed through each other at any point.

Yeah you should definitely put up a CS15 video. We need more of those.
You thinking about the feedback technique?

Seperate envelopes and VCAs of course. That was the "etc".

[madtheory]

I never knew the CS01 had a DCO!!!!

Ya, that's why it has glissando instead of portamento. Nice.

[Automatic Gainsay]

Yeah you should definitely put up a CS15 video. We need more of those.
You thinking about the feedback technique?

That's cheating.