Which Synth Had The Worst User Interface Ever?

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Re: Which Synth Had The Worst User Interface Ever?

Post by Synthaholic » Thu Apr 23, 2009 12:57 pm

I don't have experience with a lot of the mentioned synths, but of the ones I've owned:

TX802, it's not THAT bad. The keypad is a lifesaver, and the tone select buttons act as submenu selectors. I can punch values in pretty quickly, as opposed to...

the D-550. Now I've owned both a D-50 and now a D-550, and the differences are night and day when it comes to the programming interface. The D-50 provided a keypad and the joystick to speed data entry; the 550 lacks both of these. It's like a TX802 without the keypad, only inc/dec buttons, and lots of in-and-out menu diving. I wish I still had a PG-1000.

The Motif XS's integrated sampler was apparently an afterthought. Horrible interface there. Which is a shame because the rest of the synth is a delight.
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Re: Which Synth Had The Worst User Interface Ever?

Post by Esus » Thu Apr 23, 2009 1:54 pm

Sir Ruff wrote:
Syn303 wrote:A woman synth has the worst user interface ever. Difficult to understand, has deep programming, you forever need to refer to the manual, and if you push the wrong buttons your in trouble.
yeah, but at least if you get to stick your d**k inside her, you won't get a shocked c**k...
Unless she's got an STD. :(

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Re: Which Synth Had The Worst User Interface Ever?

Post by cornutt » Thu Apr 23, 2009 4:40 pm

Neonlights84 wrote:The DX7 has the single worst user interface ever.

I think Yamaha intended for the CX5M to be the user interface for the DX7. Among the available carts when the CX5M was introduced was a graphic editor for the DX7 that actually looked pretty decent. But Yamaha bungled the marketing and support for the CX5M, so I doubt that more than a handful of DX7 owners ever saw it.
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Re: Which Synth Had The Worst User Interface Ever?

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Re: Which Synth Had The Worst User Interface Ever?

Post by OriginalJambo » Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:36 pm

Neonlights84 wrote:The DX7 has the single worst user interface ever.
Nah, the D-50 is worse without a PG-1000. More parameters and therefore more menus. The DX7 isn't THAT bad - there's almost a button for every parameter, barring envelopes. There isn't even any real menu diving involved in all honesty.

Understanding FM itself is a completely different kettle of fish though. ;)

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Re: Which Synth Had The Worst User Interface Ever?

Post by madtheory » Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:20 pm

StepLogik wrote:
jupiter8 wrote:I see you have'nt tried the Yamaha TX16W.
I have'nt tried anything even remotely as frustrating, counterintuitive and simply ARRRGGHHHHH ever.
Those synths you're suggesting are childs play compared to the TX16W.
Absolutely. Worst interface by a country mile. It was, for all intents and purposes, impossible to actually do anything.

I hated that sampler with a passion. #-o
S'funny, with the Typhoon OS, it's one of the best samplers ever. Like it automatically detects the pitch of a sample and maps it for you. Not even Kontakt can do that. Loads of modulation options too, the best one being different positive and negative pitch bend for each zone, if you want.

but with the Yamaha OS, it's worse than an Ensoniq Mirage. It used to crash, and do things you hadn't asked it to do.

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Re: Which Synth Had The Worst User Interface Ever?

Post by esqoner » Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:13 pm

Esus wrote:
Sir Ruff wrote:
Syn303 wrote:A woman synth has the worst user interface ever. Difficult to understand, has deep programming, you forever need to refer to the manual, and if you push the wrong buttons your in trouble.
yeah, but at least if you get to stick your d**k inside her, you won't get a shocked c**k...
Unless she's got an STD. :(

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wtf.

i never got a manual.

i pushed some way wrong buttons this morning.

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Re: Which Synth Had The Worst User Interface Ever?

Post by Alex E » Fri Apr 24, 2009 12:57 am

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Re: Which Synth Had The Worst User Interface Ever?

Post by StepLogik » Fri Apr 24, 2009 12:59 am

Casio HT-700 is pretty bad.. despite all the buttons, you still have to use an alpha dial to both select parameters AND set their value. pretty frustrating experience.

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Re: Which Synth Had The Worst User Interface Ever?

Post by notchsider » Fri Apr 24, 2009 1:37 am

Yamaha FS1r - user interface for the mad programmer!!
it's easy only to create performance patches but in the patch department is like running blind in the traffic...
It's not so easy even with the sw editor, but it sounds GREAT!

I find TX81z quite easy to create patches...

Even D-110 is not so difficult to program but the UI is quite bad.
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Re: Which Synth Had The Worst User Interface Ever?

Post by stikygum » Fri Apr 24, 2009 4:22 am

Worst for me was the Roland MKS-70. Hated that interface with a passion. So much button pressing just to get to simple screens. Trying to switch back and forth between parts and parameters was horrible. This thing NEEDS the/an editor of some sort.
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Re: Which Synth Had The Worst User Interface Ever?

Post by mute » Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:43 am

i think the proetus command station based stuff, mp7, xl7, etc. are a super pain in the rear. i dont know what they were thinking with the fx section...

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Re: Which Synth Had The Worst User Interface Ever?

Post by Pro5 » Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:50 am

OriginalJambo wrote:
Neonlights84 wrote:The DX7 has the single worst user interface ever.
Nah, the D-50 is worse without a PG-1000. More parameters and therefore more menus. The DX7 isn't THAT bad - there's almost a button for every parameter, barring envelopes. There isn't even any real menu diving involved in all honesty.

Understanding FM itself is a completely different kettle of fish though. ;)

I think I have to agree here... I have both a DX7 II and a D-50.. now on the D-50 the upsides are a slightly more logical button layout 'under the screen' but the joystick for quick adjustments is far more bothersome than the data slider on the DX7 II. And FM vs 'LA'.... both different but at least on the DX7 you do get lots of buttons... it's just 'FM' itself that takes the thinking rather than the interface which is just similar to many digital synths that are 'easy enough' to progam because they don't use FM. So that would be a 'what is the hardest form of synthesis to program' thing rather than actual synth interface (i think).

I program the D-50 from an editor mostly, with the DX-7 I do enjoy doing it from the synth itself so there must be something going for it. With the D-50 it's better to take a 'wide overview' with all the partials and then things like effects and all it's many many options... the best editor is the midiquest one in my opinion.

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Re: Which Synth Had The Worst User Interface Ever?

Post by salwa » Fri Apr 24, 2009 11:35 am

+1 for D-110. Also the manual was written by trained monkeys.
TX 802 must have easy UI, because even I can understand it. Pretty simple when it comes to the multitimbral stuff. Making your own sounds... well, I supose it's easy too, unless, of course, you can't understand FM (like me). And it has big display.
I'd say that Poly 800 have bad UI. Of course, everything is written on the surface, but using those little, clunky buttons makes you think that this dreadful Alpha Dial isn't so bad thing.
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Re: Which Synth Had The Worst User Interface Ever?

Post by Jack Spider » Fri Apr 24, 2009 12:20 pm

The Roland VK-8 - there are many parameters that can be tinkered with, but they are only accessible via various button combinations. No manual? Forget about it!
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