Judging from the level of enthusiasm I think “vintage” was quoted because Architecture wasn’t sure if that was the right term, which I still maintain that it isn’t, not in an attempt to be ironic. But I suppose it is all in how you read it and your perspective may be different than mine.masstronaut wrote:You think Architecture is trying to 'give value' to old VA synths by talking about them? Well you know, on the one hand, so what? Should we only engage in er, not giving value to things? But in any case how exactly is this distinguishable from expressing appreciation and sharing enthusiasm? Do you think he has a massive warehouse full of 1st gen VAs and a vested interest in 'hyping' them? I don't know, maybe.otto wrote:To be honest I see very little irony in this thread and an attempt to use a hyped word (vintage) as some kind of justification to give value to VAs. I think this is absolutely unnecessary. I doubt you’ll find very many people, even on a vintage synth forum who can’t see value in VAs. They don’t need to be hyped with errant terminology. Outside of wine (and I don’t think synthesizers qualify as wine) vintage is generally applied to some of age or maturity. I don’t think VAs have been around long enough and the only value I see in trying to use that tag is some misguided hipster intent to place additional value in something because an individual is too insecure to take it at face value and like it for what it is.
The irony in using the word "vintage" is admitted upfront with those scare quotes and right there in the first line of this thread - 'I know that sound ironic but its something that has got me thinking. There is without any doubt that the first generation VA's have quite a different sound from the newer VA's or softsynths on the market.'
I don't see a problem with the basic premise or original tone of this thread. There's value in all things that make a sound as long as you don't expect them to be something other than what they are.
I wasn’t talking about a tangible value($$) I was talking about a credibility type of value. As in “this VA isn’t cool unless I can call it vintage”.