What is the Oldest Piece of Gear in Your Studio?

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Re: What is the Oldest Piece of Gear in Your Studio?

Post by snsr » Fri May 29, 2009 6:42 pm

Micromoog (1976), followed by my Korg Stage Echo 500 (1979). I'm glad I don't look or smell as old as these guys, even though we're of a similar vintage : )

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Re: What is the Oldest Piece of Gear in Your Studio?

Post by Sir Ruff » Fri May 29, 2009 8:23 pm

cornutt wrote:Hey Ruff, are those neons in your Seeburg beatbox? That's what they look like in the photo. My guess is that it uses them as attack or spike generators. They might also be neon-lamp oscillators. (Some old organs used neon-lamp oscillators.)
What do you mean by "neons"? How could I tell? From what I've seen, they are little lights with two coils running vertically through them. They blink in time with the beat, and more than one seems to blink at any given time depending on what sound is being played. One, right at the top stays on the entire time the unit is on, and then still stays lit and dims slowly after it's turned off.
Like you say, they must be triggering something or causing the beat somehow (which I guess is obvious), but I have no idea how! If you have any more insight into what they are doing, I'd love to know!

Something else very strange- there are also little extra clicks and sort of random pattern shifts that occur as well... extra kick hits, etc.... How you can get all this from one looped contact is pretty incredible!
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Re: What is the Oldest Piece of Gear in Your Studio?

Post by Shreddie » Fri May 29, 2009 11:00 pm

Sir Ruff wrote:What do you mean by "neons"? How could I tell? From what I've seen, they are little lights with two coils running vertically through them.
Sounds alot like a neon lamp/bulb to me!

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Re: What is the Oldest Piece of Gear in Your Studio?

Post by rhino » Sat May 30, 2009 2:38 am

cornutt wrote:Hey Ruff, are those neons in your Seeburg beatbox? That's what they look like in the photo. My guess is that it uses them as attack or spike generators. They might also be neon-lamp oscillators. (Some old organs used neon-lamp oscillators.)
i'll bet they are used as a keying matrix... notice there seems to be only one "ring" of contacts on the scanner. Wurlitzer (Sideman) has ten sounds and ten "tracks" on the scanner so different tones can 'share' the same beat without triggering both on every beat. pardon my poor explanation.
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Re: What is the Oldest Piece of Gear in Your Studio?

Post by White » Sat May 30, 2009 8:42 am

The oldest synth I have in my studio is a Sequential Prophet VS. A real gutsy American sound.
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Re: What is the Oldest Piece of Gear in Your Studio?

Post by electronicpulse » Sat May 30, 2009 9:11 am

Oh, that would be my Roland SH-2. Love the thing and don't know what I would do without it. Frankly, they just don't make gear like they used to.

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Re: What is the Oldest Piece of Gear in Your Studio?

Post by urgetoplay » Sat May 30, 2009 3:17 pm

CS80...1978-79?
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Re: What is the Oldest Piece of Gear in Your Studio?

Post by Ian S » Sun May 31, 2009 2:41 am

Odyssey, probably 1973, certainly no later than 74 because that's when the Mk. 2 came out. I'm sure Micke could tell me from the serial number ;)
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Re: What is the Oldest Piece of Gear in Your Studio?

Post by HideawayStudio » Sat Jun 06, 2009 10:57 pm

Sir Ruff wrote:
cornutt wrote:Hey Ruff, are those neons in your Seeburg beatbox? That's what they look like in the photo. My guess is that it uses them as attack or spike generators. They might also be neon-lamp oscillators. (Some old organs used neon-lamp oscillators.)
What do you mean by "neons"? How could I tell? From what I've seen, they are little lights with two coils running vertically through them. They blink in time with the beat, and more than one seems to blink at any given time depending on what sound is being played. One, right at the top stays on the entire time the unit is on, and then still stays lit and dims slowly after it's turned off.
Like you say, they must be triggering something or causing the beat somehow (which I guess is obvious), but I have no idea how! If you have any more insight into what they are doing, I'd love to know!

Something else very strange- there are also little extra clicks and sort of random pattern shifts that occur as well... extra kick hits, etc.... How you can get all this from one looped contact is pretty incredible!
These are actually special form of neon lamp that were used as logic elements in the early 60's. They were often used to implement ring counters, frequency dividers and memory. It works because the striking voltage (and consequential current change) of a neon is much higher than the holding voltage. Once the neon lamp is struck and running it's logic state has changed and remains held in that state until the power is withdrawn. In this case they are probably used to sequence the pattern clock in a continuous loop.

One very popular application in the 60's for this kind of circuit was the sequencing of the segments on the gallons/dollars display used in nixie tube based gas pumps. Very clever and very pretty :)

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Re: What is the Oldest Piece of Gear in Your Studio?

Post by Clavier » Sun Jun 07, 2009 6:56 pm

urgetoplay wrote:CS80...1978-79?
Don't you have a CP-70 though? Surely that is older?
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Post by HideawayStudio » Sun Jun 07, 2009 10:35 pm

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Re: What is the Oldest Piece of Gear in Your Studio?

Post by Gregor Samsa » Wed Jun 10, 2009 6:09 pm

Fender Rhodes Mark I is my oldest electric piece. I also have a JenCo Celeste from the 50's.
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Re: What is the Oldest Piece of Gear in Your Studio?

Post by plikestechno » Wed Jun 10, 2009 7:38 pm

Probably my Univox SR55 (Korg Mini Pops 3) then a bunch of late 70s stuff.
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Re: What is the Oldest Piece of Gear in Your Studio?

Post by de raaf » Wed Jun 10, 2009 8:16 pm

my eko tiger duo, yamaha cs01 and siel mono
and yamaha 1005 analog delay
+ a few other things
got them all pretty cheap

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