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rank your synths/controllers by key feel

Post by rap and country » Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:26 pm

yamaha sy-35
m-audio keystation 61es
korg prophecy
novation xiosynth
korg wavestation
korg polysix
casio sk-1
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Re: rank your synths/controllers by key feel

Post by rockmanrock » Fri Jul 03, 2009 1:15 am

Yamaha AN1X is the nicest one I've got. Next I'd say my ESQ1, different feel to the Yamaha but it's a quality keyboard. My Korg Poly 61 is a bit weird feeling. My old DX11 felt lovely. Got a CBX-K1 3 octave mini-keys controller and that feels great too. Absolutely craps on the feel of a Minikorg's keys.

Been on a hunt for a small 4 octave controller lately. Bought a Roland PC180A which has keys that are 1cm smaller than standard. Makes for a very small keyboard front to back if you're short on desk space but it felt wrong to my fingers. It also had sharp bits of the plastic moulding exposed on the front and sides of every white key which I removed with a bit of wet and dry paper. Settled for an old Evolution MK149 as this has reasonable keys and proper wheels. I didn't get on with the Roland pitch/mod stick. The mod seems to be automatic on those, nudge it forward and mod is gradually introduced, ease back on the pressure and the mod just gets suddenly cut off. Awful!

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Re: rank your synths/controllers by key feel

Post by Old Iron Giant » Fri Jul 03, 2009 3:56 am

1. Ensoniq ASR-88 - 88 full weighted keys "nice :)
2. M-audio Axium25 - Semi weight / full sized keys
3. Alesis QS7.1 - Semi weight keys, plastic feeling though..
4. Alesis ION - horrible feeling keys with no weight, but decently built.
5. Korg Microkorg - Small, cheap, and well.. cheaply constructed key. "Flex-Plastic? come-on.. "
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Re: rank your synths/controllers by key feel

Post by killedaway » Fri Jul 03, 2009 4:12 am

Kurzweil PC2x
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Yamaha DX21
Roland HS-10
Alesis QS6
Kawai K1 II
M-Audio Oxygen 8
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Re: rank your synths/controllers by key feel

Post by shaft9000 » Fri Jul 03, 2009 5:01 am

Vsynth A6 LP MS2k Juno6
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Re: rank your synths/controllers by key feel

Post by Old Iron Giant » Fri Jul 03, 2009 5:08 am

shaft9000 wrote:Vsynth A6 LP MS2k Juno6
I'd choose the Juno6 over the MS2k :wink:
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Re: rank your synths/controllers by key feel

Post by Solderman » Fri Jul 03, 2009 5:12 am

Kurzweil K2vx(Any idea who makes the keybeds for these?)
Jupiter 8 (Great action, obviously too old for velocity)
M-Audio Oxygene 8 v2
SH-101,Alpha Juno 1 (tied)
Polivoks (mushy but responsive)
Minikorg 700S (poor responsiveness, worse action)
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Re: rank your synths/controllers by key feel

Post by Shreddie » Fri Jul 03, 2009 6:40 am

Kawai K5000s (semi-weighted and absolutely lovely!)
Yamaha EX7 (Close to the K5000s action... un-weighted but heavier than some modern semi-weighted actions... very solid/reassuring.)
Alesis Andromeda (semi-weighted, nice and responsive but feels a little flimsy in comparison to the others.)

They're all really rather good though, there's little to choose between them. I didn't include the Alesis Fusion (8HD) in that list 'cos it's a totally different action (weighted/hammer)... But that's rather nice too! And just in case you're wondering, I have played some synths which have really bad actions... I just don't own any at present.

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Re: rank your synths/controllers by key feel

Post by V301H » Fri Jul 03, 2009 6:44 am

Yamaha CP35 (weighted 73-key electronic piano and controller for Yamaha CS70M)
Kurzweil PC2X/O (88 weighted keys, Velocity, Aftertouch, 4 Zones)
Matrix 12 (Velocity, Aftertouch, Release Velocity, 6 Zones)
DX7 (Velocity, Aftertouch)
WK-3800 (76-key Velocity)
CS70M (Aftertouch)
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Jupiter 6
Poly-800
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Re: rank your synths/controllers by key feel

Post by druzz » Fri Jul 03, 2009 8:37 am

1-- yamaha clavinova pf-p100
2-- yamaha dx7 IIfd
3-- roland jx-3p (no velocity)
4-- akai ax73
5-- korg dw-8000

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Re: rank your synths/controllers by key feel

Post by Pro5 » Fri Jul 03, 2009 8:48 am

A lot of mine could be described as virtually identical (as they share the same/similar keybeds) i.e the SY's and DX... these Are good feeling. AN1x is also very 'comfy' and fast playing but different in that it's obviously not as serious feeling as the DX7 and SY77.

D-50, some don't like it's rubbery feel but I do.. it's another 'comfy' and NON clattery board. JX-3P would follow, being 'ok' not great but not bad.

Then the JX-8P (Not so much feel as noise - slightly clunky due to underweights and poor aftertouch) and lastly the M1. M1 Shares the Yamaha style keybed (it's even marked Yamaha internally IIRC) but in the M1 it's somehow far more annoying. The M1 is a bit 'echoey' due to it's oversize and hollow inners and plastic joystick area.

Sorry I couldn't just list them without explaining as it's all very subjective. :)

SY77 + DX7IID
AN1x
SY85 (slightly more echoey than the 77 in my case)
D-50
JX-3P
JX-8P
M1 (unless you wear headphones and only play piano type sounds)

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Re: rank your synths/controllers by key feel

Post by Stab Frenzy » Fri Jul 03, 2009 9:30 am

Of the stuff I have access to at the moment:

V-Synth
K5000W
MEK
Juno 6
Micron
Microkorg

The V-Synth and K5000W are miles ahead of the rest though.

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Re: rank your synths/controllers by key feel

Post by hageir » Fri Jul 03, 2009 9:36 am

Rhodes Suitcase 73 Mark II :)
Alpha Juno 2
PCR-M1

When I think about it, I haven't had a lot of keyboards..
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Re: rank your synths/controllers by key feel

Post by madtheory » Fri Jul 03, 2009 10:44 am

1. Akai MX-1000, an oldish 76 note weighted jobbie. Among the best I've tried, and I've tried a lot.

I wouldn't put any of the others I have on any list, they're all unpleasant- Nord Lead 2x, Yamaha CS-5 and CS-10, Casio CZ-1.

Actually, the keyboard version of the 2x is a complete waste of money. They should put the pitch bend in a box on its own :)
hageir wrote:Rhodes Suitcase 73 Mark II :)
Agree with the :) ! Those are just like a real piano, as long as they're set up correctly. I've played a few that were abused, and the action was horrible.
Pro5 wrote:D-50, some don't like it's rubbery feel but I do..
Me too. I have a fairly beat up one, and it's nice for a non weighted.

I think the best non weighted keyboard is the Alesis Fusion. The weighted one is excellent too. The new Akai controllers would be a close second.

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Re: rank your synths/controllers by key feel

Post by Analogue Crazy » Fri Jul 03, 2009 12:19 pm

Overall my RD-700SX Stage Piano has the nicest keyboard feel. It's wooden and weighted and is just sheer pleasure to sit at and play. Its always flightcased and ready to go out live though, so i don't get the pleasure of having it in the studio very often.

Synthwise, i think my DX7s has the nicest keyboard feel and response, closely followed by my Wavestation EX.
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