What Vintage Synth Would You Like to See Back in Production?

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Re: What Vintage Synth Would You Like to See Back in Production?

Post by crystalmsc » Wed Aug 26, 2009 11:06 am

I would like to see something with the glory of 12 bit or early 16 bit sampler and drum machine, with real analog filter, using current technology.
Also some funky and dirty 8 bit machine, in an easy to use portable device with some sampling and a fun to play interface. Something like the Yamaha SU10 with better lo-fi sound, thinner size and a lot more features.
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Re: What Vintage Synth Would You Like to See Back in Production?

Post by Shreddie » Wed Aug 26, 2009 3:34 pm

balma wrote:64 poly is useless on this machine.
Don't forget the time it was built, until the EX series, the highest polyphony you could get on any other synth was just 64 notes... Most others only had 32. The EX5 and EX5R were the first synths to have 128 note poly.
The EX from Yamaha, are digital monsters. I can't imagine such a beast, with a 64 poly! On the performance mode, you just select ONE VA sound or FDSP, or put effect to one of the AW2M patches, and you won't be able even to see the other FDSP or VA patches, the system just skip them when browsing them....
That wasn't a bug, that was a limitation of the hardware. The DSP chips simply weren't powerful enough to process everything. On the EX7 you could have any one of VA, FDSP or insert effects, the EX5/R had twice the DSP so you could have any two of them or a single voice of VL synthesis.
So, in that point you can say loudly : well, if only I could have more FCKN user patch locations!!!!! Grrrr, not only 256, because, if you have the half of those sounds made with the FDSP or VA engine, you won't be able to use them on performance mode.
Remeber the time in which it was made, this was the late 90's! 256 user locations was pretty respectable for then.
On the pattern mode, when you have filled more than 30 patterns or are around 75% of the internal memory full, the files become corrupted, and when you try to load them, you just got a weird string of ASCII characters on your screen and you have to turn off the synth because it collapses...
I've not encountered that and I've use somewhere in the region of 90% of available memory... But then I have a late version of the OS on mine.
Its user interface concept is simple horrible.
I quite like it's interface... For a digital synth!
I imagine that this synth, didn't passed the final quality and control tests, but the engineers said: anyway!! let's release it in this way, unfinished and incomplete, who cares!!!
That's no different to most other manufacturers. At least Yamaha continued to develop the OS... And those OS chips are still available in some countries though stocks are running out.
even the SAVE options have problems....
Not on mine.
Have you made a keymap??? that amazing feature, that allows you to assign and ENTIRE PATTERN on a single key, or a track of a pattern, or a sample. Everything together in a single key map. That feature f**k rules!!! you can control a huge database of samples and patterns, just playing notes.

but! you can't save it alone. If you want to save the drummap, you must save it on the ALL feature.
Now, that is a problem... Cracking feature, poorly implemented.
oh man, I say again will definitly will love to see this synth coming back!!!
Have you not heard of the Alesis Fusion?! Much like the EX series in many ways... But let down by what I feel is a poor user interface, awkard to use features and a few minor bugs. But that and the EX7 (or EX5) make a killer combination!

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Re: What Vintage Synth Would You Like to See Back in Production?

Post by Mush » Wed Aug 26, 2009 3:49 pm

I'd like to see the "Burnsie 2000" back in production. Still untouched in soooo many ways!

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Re: What Vintage Synth Would You Like to See Back in Production?

Post by Shreddie » Thu Aug 27, 2009 12:16 am

XpanderXt wrote:Synthi AKS (add MIDI)
They don't have MIDI as they're still the old designs but the current line-up of EMS synths are here...

http://www.ems-synthi.demon.co.uk/

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Re: What Vintage Synth Would You Like to See Back in Production?

Post by supermel74 » Thu Aug 27, 2009 6:10 am

The Oscar

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Re: What Vintage Synth Would You Like to See Back in Production?

Post by tyrannosaurus mark » Thu Aug 27, 2009 11:40 am

Shreddie wrote:
XpanderXt wrote:Synthi AKS (add MIDI)
They don't have MIDI as they're still the old designs but the current line-up of EMS synths are here...

http://www.ems-synthi.demon.co.uk/

They still make the Synthi??
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Re: What Vintage Synth Would You Like to See Back in Production?

Post by pflosi » Thu Aug 27, 2009 12:29 pm

yes, you can still buy every EMS product right now and new. even the mighty synthi 100 and vocoder...

not really cheap though ;)

http://www.emsrehberg.de/Pricelist/pricelist.html

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Re: What Vintage Synth Would You Like to See Back in Production?

Post by tyrannosaurus mark » Thu Aug 27, 2009 12:32 pm

Holy s**t though, that's awesome!!
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Re: What Vintage Synth Would You Like to See Back in Production?

Post by pflosi » Thu Aug 27, 2009 12:41 pm

indeed :D

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Re: What Vintage Synth Would You Like to See Back in Production?

Post by tyrannosaurus mark » Thu Aug 27, 2009 12:43 pm

But oh man, the prices. Haha still. Should be more bands touring with Synthi's
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Re: What Vintage Synth Would You Like to See Back in Production?

Post by pflosi » Thu Aug 27, 2009 1:20 pm

yeah, i wish i had the $$$$... :(

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Re: What Vintage Synth Would You Like to See Back in Production?

Post by balma » Thu Aug 27, 2009 3:53 pm

Yeap that one is used on the Meat Beat Manifesto's album R.U.O.k.
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Re: What Vintage Synth Would You Like to See Back in Production?

Post by zzzxtreme » Fri Aug 28, 2009 8:07 am

not exactly a synth, but I wish for Technic's comeback
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Re: What Vintage Synth Would You Like to See Back in Production?

Post by xpander » Fri Aug 28, 2009 9:00 am

pflosi wrote:yes, you can still buy every EMS product right now and new. even the mighty synthi 100 and vocoder...
are they really doing that? last i heard it was *planned* to offer that stuff again using some leftover parts but they haven't gotten around to it.

i'd like to see the PPG Wave 2.3 go back into production so they wouldnt be so impossible to obtain.
and i'd like to see another run of the 1970s Buchla 259.

and the DX7? you can't go into a used shop around these parts without wading through a stack of them to get to the stack of D50s. really, the SY77/99 is the way to go.

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Re: What Vintage Synth Would You Like to See Back in Production?

Post by Mooger5 » Fri Aug 28, 2009 12:27 pm

pflosi wrote:yes, you can still buy every EMS product right now and new. even the mighty synthi 100 and vocoder...

not really cheap though ;)

http://www.emsrehberg.de/Pricelist/pricelist.html
FYI Rehberg I believe is just a restore shop and the prices are for refurbished units only. EMS are still alive and so rightfully claim to be the "longest established synthesizer manufacturer" but there´s a long waiting list for brand new Synthis. Here http://www.ems-synthi.demon.co.uk/
They must be full of work since their webpage was last updated in 1998 as well as the prices #-o
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