Stable free running LFOs with fine tuning
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Stable free running LFOs with fine tuning
Software or hardware, what synths have:
Fastest LFo?
Most stable free running LFO?
Fine tuning?
Fastest LFo?
Most stable free running LFO?
Fine tuning?
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Re: Stable free running LFOs with fine tuning
Fastest LFO? You do realise LFO is Low Frequency Oscillator don't you? If you want a fast one you use an audio oscillator to modulate whatever you need modulated.
For stable go digital.
For stable go digital.
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Re: Stable free running LFOs with fine tuning
The slowest LFO; Roland Alpha Juno = I think the slow sweep is something about 2 minutes! 

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Re: Stable free running LFOs with fine tuning
+1Stab Frenzy wrote:Fastest LFO? You do realise LFO is Low Frequency Oscillator don't you? If you want a fast one you use an audio oscillator to modulate whatever you need modulated.
For stable go digital.
However if you set the Korg Mono/poly's LFO waveform between /I and I\ ir quadruples the speed and you can get some FM sounds.
Re: Stable free running LFOs with fine tuning
Look, I am familiar with what LFO is short for and I know how it works. I don't mean to sound unthankful, but do you honestly think your answer is very helpful?Stab Frenzy wrote:Fastest LFO? You do realise LFO is Low Frequency Oscillator don't you? If you want a fast one you use an audio oscillator to modulate whatever you need modulated.
For stable go digital.
I'm not a synth expert, and that's why I signed up here so I could post some questions. I happen to end up playing a lot with LFO and FM because I like the sounds that come out of that, and before buying something, I'd like to know about synths with powerful and flexible LFOs, not just in terms of routing possibilities.
Do you mean to say that all digital synths have dead stable free running LFOs? Is the least stable LFO in the whole digital synth world more stable than the most stable LFO of all analog synths? Things like that. (BTW, I'm asking. I don't mean to sound prejudgemental) And what about fine tuning? Does it exist?
Re: Stable free running LFOs with fine tuning
Thanks!monolith wrote:if you set the Korg Mono/poly's LFO waveform between /I and I\ ir quadruples the speed and you can get some FM sounds.
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Re: Stable free running LFOs with fine tuning
He's saying that regular oscillators (in the hearing range) would be better for fast modulation..
Don't be so twitchy, you're overreacting
Relax
Anyways,
if you have an analog synth you can modify the LFO to make it faster (like the SH-101; you can modify it into hearing range!)
Don't be so twitchy, you're overreacting

Relax

Anyways,
if you have an analog synth you can modify the LFO to make it faster (like the SH-101; you can modify it into hearing range!)
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Re: Stable free running LFOs with fine tuning
The Evolver / Mopho / Tetra LFOs go into the audible range and in semitone steps, so I guess they are quite 'stable', and fast.
You'd probably have a hard job finding modern digital LFOs that aren't extremely stable.
You'd probably have a hard job finding modern digital LFOs that aren't extremely stable.
Re: Stable free running LFOs with fine tuning
most LFO's on synths don't go over about 60 - 100Hz max. As far as stability, most LFO's, because they don't go into much audio range, don't have the type of compensation that a VCO would have. For stability, many of the modular synths that have VCO's that operate in the LFO range also would be more stable. The Arp2600 had fairly stable oscillators that could go into a low mode as did the Minimoog. The Minimoog was never known for stability though.
Cynthia systems has the new zero oscillator that can go from audio down to 0 and then into negative (not really negative hertz, reversed phase). It's probably the most stable of them.
http://www.cyndustries.com/
more modern analogs and newer digial synths will have very stable LFOs.
Older analog and older digital, do not real stable LFO's.
Cynthia systems has the new zero oscillator that can go from audio down to 0 and then into negative (not really negative hertz, reversed phase). It's probably the most stable of them.
http://www.cyndustries.com/
more modern analogs and newer digial synths will have very stable LFOs.
Older analog and older digital, do not real stable LFO's.
Re: Stable free running LFOs with fine tuning
I see now that I may have had a bit too much coffee this morning and maybe overreacted a little. Sorry about that.hageir wrote:He's saying that regular oscillators (in the hearing range) would be better for fast modulation..
Don't be so twitchy, you're overreacting
Relax

Thanks for the tip! Any synths that can do that, that also have FM?hageir wrote:Anyways,
if you have an analog synth you can modify the LFO to make it faster (like the SH-101; you can modify it into hearing range!)
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Re: Stable free running LFOs with fine tuning
hah don't worryHUBA wrote:I see now that I may have had a bit too much coffee this morning and maybe overreacted a little. Sorry about that.hageir wrote:He's saying that regular oscillators (in the hearing range) would be better for fast modulation..
Don't be so twitchy, you're overreacting
Relax![]()
Thanks for the tip! Any synths that can do that, that also have FM?hageir wrote:Anyways,
if you have an analog synth you can modify the LFO to make it faster (like the SH-101; you can modify it into hearing range!)

Hmm, Filter-Modulation or Frequency-Modulation (DX synths)?
You might want to check out the Sherman Filterbank, it has FM and a super-duper fast LFO..
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Re: Stable free running LFOs with fine tuning
Frequency Modulation. The Sherman Filterbank looks really cool and so does the Zero Oscillator, but I'm looking for a complete synth and can't afford to even think about modulars.
The Poly Evolver seems VERY interesting on paper, but I can't make up my mind about if I particularly like the sound of it from what I've heard in various clips. Can't tell what it is. If it's the onboard effects it's cool. If it's the filter it's not.
Are there other interesting non modular alternatives with fast, flexible LFOs and FM than the Poly Evolver?
Andromeda?
Software?
BTW I don't mind hearing more about outstanding LFOs even if they are expensive =P~
The Poly Evolver seems VERY interesting on paper, but I can't make up my mind about if I particularly like the sound of it from what I've heard in various clips. Can't tell what it is. If it's the onboard effects it's cool. If it's the filter it's not.
Are there other interesting non modular alternatives with fast, flexible LFOs and FM than the Poly Evolver?
Andromeda?
Software?
BTW I don't mind hearing more about outstanding LFOs even if they are expensive =P~
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Re: Stable free running LFOs with fine tuning
Micro Q's LFOs go up to 5kHz and they're stable and tunable whilst freerunning. Probably Blofeld's do the same. Of course they have frequency modulation for oscs and filters
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Re: Stable free running LFOs with fine tuning
I'm not sure of your particular needs, but I can say that I also was never impressed by demos of evolvers. I eventually just got one, regardless, based on the specs. The filter is something you have to use in person, and hear in stereo.HUBA wrote:The Poly Evolver seems VERY interesting on paper, but I can't make up my mind about if I particularly like the sound of it from what I've heard in various clips. Can't tell what it is. If it's the onboard effects it's cool. If it's the filter it's not.
Anyways, why stable LFOS? Things get far more interesting when you modulate 1 lfo frequency with another slow moving random lfo. Pretty non-stable, but sounds really cool.
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Re: Stable free running LFOs with fine tuning
A6 LFOs go only up to like 25hz, not really audio range. goes down to bout 0.00763hz (130s per cycle), very nice. But it can have filter FM by white/pink/red noise, OSC1, external audio or external cv, so that opens some possibilities.
And here is a tip for the A6 (and every synth with loopable EGs): set attack / decay to linear (for triangle lfo), adjust attack / decay times and loop between them. A6 can go VERY fast like this.
And here is a tip for the A6 (and every synth with loopable EGs): set attack / decay to linear (for triangle lfo), adjust attack / decay times and loop between them. A6 can go VERY fast like this.
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