maindeglorie wrote:The only DCO synths that I tend to like are Roland ones. The Juno 6/60 and JX-8p sound beautiful to me. Not exactly huge analog, but still beautiful.
exactly. they have their place, and as mentioned in this thread, sometimes the phase-locking or "solid" sound of DCO is just what the doctor ordered. also, i think one of the reasons why early Junos are mentioned so often is bcs, even tho designed to be cheaper than Jupiter range, they retained the filters, vcas and envelopes from the big brethren. most other DCO ranges went to cheaper designs in all respects form their VCO counterparts. for example, matrix6/1000 filter which has nothing to do with filters in OBXa, OB8, or Xpander. it may have a "curtis" label on it but it isnt the same model or circuit or quality. same with VCAs. it is an interesting synth in its own right, if you investigate its special routing capabilities, and not use it for typical analogueness, or expect it to be an "oberheim".
overall, i'm in the boat with Otto, i do prefer and use the sound of good VCO synths, and even tho i liked DCOs on their own merit, in the end i only kept MKS70. partly for it's unique sound, partly bcs of small space it is occupying, and partly for nostalgic reasons, bcs JX-10 was my first decent analog poly. well, if there was a Juno-60 3U rack module with sliders, i think i'd get it right away.
projectwoofer wrote:Seriously though, I also find the P08/Tetra sufficiently thick plus very reasonably priced. Sometimes when I want a more vintage, dirty sound, I use a tiny amount of white noise to modulate the oscillator pitch or use a little bit of feedback...it works surprisingly well! Plus, when I want something more "meaty" than the Curtis filter, I combine the Tetra with the Waldorf 4pole which has a more "raw" power in it...Of course I can also layer two almost identical sounds and voila!
no ammount of modulation to a DCO will make it sound like a VCO. too many things, processes going on to be emulated as simple as that. just go and play/experience a big vco polyphonic you will land on your behind
. i went thru the same process may yrs ago, imitating stuff on my jx10, using outboard, all kind of tricks to make it more vintage/vco, until i played the real thing, and suddenly that sound was right there, and larger than i could ever imagine. there was no going back.
second, as i mentioned above, a real Curtis 3320 filter can be meaty
, and big as a house when going into resonance, but not the peticular Curtis filter found on DSI products. so, when DSI claim they're using "curtis" they are telling you the truth, just not the whole truth. once you have experience with both, i am positive there will be no doubt in your mind.
as for your search for the mono VCO, if i may suggest, you can take a look at Roland SH2. insanely big organic sound. it will complement your Tetra very nicely. if one vco plus a sub is enough then look at the SH-09 (same circuits). i havent yet tried the new SEM, but would love to. even tho the demos show its different from the original, still it seems to have most vintage vibe of the current monosynth crop. alternatively, a few of the modern modular manufacturers, like motm, macbeth, oakley, yu synth etc, have made some very vintagey sounding modules, if you are into that sort of thing.