Real analog or VA?

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Re: Real analog or VA?

Post by swisstony123 » Mon Mar 15, 2010 1:11 am

I think that VA's make things complicated sometimes....less is more and all that jizz...I mean jazz
Keep your setup simple, make good music first then buy good, interesting, weird synths afterall the unstable make the best sounds (my dads old and crazy and has a wide sound pallette) and don't follow the rest and buy a nord. Sorry nord owners I think they're great really....honest ;)
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Re: Real analog or VA?

Post by soundxplorer » Mon Mar 15, 2010 2:32 am

In my experience, VAs can emulate RAs well enough for most sounds - I'd say 90%, probably. But for that other 10%, I can absolutely tell the difference, and it does matter to me. But that difference is mostly when you start getting extreme amounts of modulation going, like audio-rate LFOs modulating a filter while it is self-resonating. This is where analogs retain their "living and breathing" nature while VAs start to show their digital bits.

Either way, I try not to get too hung up on the raw sound of a synth because I know I'm going to run it through a bunch of effects anyway, by the time the song is finished. Oh, and most of those effects will be analog...because they sound better than digital effects. :lol:

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Re: Real analog or VA?

Post by tallowwaters » Mon Mar 15, 2010 3:30 am

Thank heavens this POS thread was revived too. Surely there is some ancient Mac vs PC debate we can work our necromancy on too, eh?
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Re: Real analog or VA?

Post by griffin avid » Mon Mar 15, 2010 5:00 pm

You're a Mod. Close the thread.

Maybe there should be an area for "Classic Threads" and ones like this can be archived and some of the traffic can be directed there. I mean, Synth Shootouts started from the anti-This-synth-verse-this-synth stance. And what do you know, enough people kept at it and eventually the site had to accomodate all the posters.

Do the same here for the stuff that comes up Again and Again and Again....
as tiring as it may be to read 1100 times, it shows that there is still interest among many of the members.
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Re: Real analog or VA?

Post by CS_TBL » Mon Mar 15, 2010 7:02 pm

Hey, I like these threads, always great fun. :lol:

But a forum category called 'never ending threads' may be an idea. In there you can put all these threads, like RA vs VA, Mac vs PC, Cubase vs Logic, HW sampler vs SW sampler, etc. If people want to discuss in endless threads, they can do so, there!
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Re: Real analog or VA?

Post by meatballfulton » Tue Mar 16, 2010 12:21 am

AnalogKid wrote:The reason that everyone is talking about it is because there is a difference.
Except a lot of people have no clue what the difference is.

A lot of folks just parrot what they hear other people saying.
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Re: Real analog or VA?

Post by tallowwaters » Tue Mar 16, 2010 2:47 am

griffin avid wrote:You're a Mod. Close the thread.

Maybe there should be an area for "Classic Threads" and ones like this can be archived and some of the traffic can be directed there. I mean, Synth Shootouts started from the anti-This-synth-verse-this-synth stance. And what do you know, enough people kept at it and eventually the site had to accomodate all the posters.

Do the same here for the stuff that comes up Again and Again and Again....
as tiring as it may be to read 1100 times, it shows that there is still interest among many of the members.
I'm not going to close a thread because I think is 100% asinine. h**l, I'm inclined to let a lot of people type 10 pages of text but not actually say anything. If anything, it keeps them out of the real world, where I am more likely to run into them. Also, I don't mod this forum.

And people have little interest in the thread itself. Most of their interest is in demonstrating how right and correct their opinion is, at least in regards to how wrong another person's opinion is perceived. If it was otherwise, I might would be inclined to participate in a constructive manner.
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Re: Real analog or VA?

Post by tallowwaters » Tue Mar 16, 2010 2:51 am

CS_TBL wrote:Hey, I like these threads, always great fun. :lol:

But a forum category called 'never ending threads' may be an idea. In there you can put all these threads, like RA vs VA, Mac vs PC, Cubase vs Logic, HW sampler vs SW sampler, etc. If people want to discuss in endless threads, they can do so, there!
But instead of actually being able to post, they have to look at pictures of girls outside, like, near trees and nature and stuff. :lol:
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Re: Real analog or VA?

Post by Automatic Gainsay » Tue Mar 16, 2010 11:26 pm

tallowwaters wrote:Most of their interest is in demonstrating how right and correct their opinion is, at least in regards to how wrong another person's opinion is perceived.
You're wrong about that.

And I'm more right about you being wrong than you are in your wrongness.
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Re: Real analog or VA?

Post by pflosi » Tue Mar 16, 2010 11:43 pm

:lol: i missed you AG

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Re: Real analog or VA?

Post by tekkentool » Tue Mar 16, 2010 11:57 pm

pflosi wrote::lol: i missed you AG
one day at a time man, one day at a time ;)

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Re: Real analog or VA?

Post by tallowwaters » Wed Mar 17, 2010 12:16 am

pflosi wrote::lol: i missed you AG
Easy for you to say, he hasn't been sleeping in your pool house, drinking all of your off-brand Mexican soda, and leaving vintage copies of Club lying around your bathroom.
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Re: Real analog or VA?

Post by clubbedtodeath » Wed Mar 17, 2010 12:34 am

Ooo! Which issues? The Betty Grable and Martha Stewart editions??

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Re: Real analog or VA?

Post by JJQ » Wed Mar 17, 2010 9:16 am

I know this discussion shoud end, but.

After all this is a vintage synth forum, and I think it should be the right place to bash VAs and software.

If I wanted to discuss the superiority of VAs Id think that there are other forums, dedicated to modern techniques.
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Re: Real analog or VA?

Post by Stab Frenzy » Wed Mar 17, 2010 3:12 pm

JJQ wrote:I know this discussion shoud end, but.

After all this is a vintage synth forum, and I think it should be the right place to bash VAs and software.
You're wrong.

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