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Re: musikmesse 2010 Frankfurt

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 9:46 am
by Hybrid88
Yet again Roland makes some more s@#t I definitely don't want and Korg makes something I do :D

... and the GAIA pronounced "Gay Ear" I presume?! :?

Korg R&D seem on the money more than ever these days, and the styling and interfaces are really nice with most new Korg gear, whilst Roland's could be much better, also if the GAIA (which actually looks pretty horrible to me aesthetically) is anything like the 201, build quality seems to be going worryingly downhill at Roland.

And haven't already we had an SH-01? Well, something damn close anyways, Roland must be pretty short of numbers for the SH series by now, feels a bit like Deja Vu :lol:

Re: musikmesse 2010 Frankfurt

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:17 am
by Zarith
RobotHeroes wrote:
Damn. This video is boring. 8 minutes of "Synths for newbies"...

Anyway this is nothing more than a repackaged SH-201. The only different is the expanded effect section.

Re: musikmesse 2010 Frankfurt

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:31 am
by stikygum
griffin avid wrote:Radikal Technologies (Spectralis) are unveiling a new hybrid synth keyboard called Accelerator.
I'm waiting on Jorg to post the images and product demos on the Radikal forum.
I can't wait to see this.
Is it really a hybrid though? Looks fun!

The Monotron for only $67 is amazingly cheap. Not super interested in tiny toy synths, but like dino said, how can you not support this. I think Korg is seeing what kind of reaction and market there would be for them if they went further with an analog synth.

Re: musikmesse 2010 Frankfurt

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 11:19 am
by griffin avid
Jorg from Radikal has said:

Jorg from Radikal has said: at the moment we are working on a new product that will be presented at the Frankfurt Musikmesse.
No - it's not a Spectralis 3 and it's not a Spectralis keyboard version. But it is a very special keyboard...
The name is: "ACCELERATOR"
3 Oscillators per voice
two multimode filters (12/24dB) per voice
graphic LCD
Two external inputs. Can be used as a stereo pair.
Split and Dualmode playing options.
Arpeggiator
PM stands for phase modulation (some yamaha synths had that but called it FM)
Categorized Randomize Sound Function
Linear Detuning for fixed oscillator beating times over the whole pitch range! Essential feature for lush pad sounds.


Ya know, I do believe somewhere else on their site I read it was a hybrid also. The Spectralis has that analog voice and the 3 DSP voices. Now that you mention it, it will either be a hybrid or all analogue. Not sure. Not that the DSP synths sound bad at all.

Beyond that, I'm not really excited about any more toys or gadgets. Most of us slide into that range of having a bunch of stuff and not really NEEDING anything else. So something new would have to be really new and add on to our studios. I want a drum machine. A super-duper drum machine that will take front and center and become the bit of kit that I turn on first and off last.

I would also like it to have a sound that has an impact on music production. Which sort means it wont be surrounded by controversial threads regarding whether it sounds like something that already exists.

As far as what we're seeing early so far, they seem like nice distractions or something you would get if the product 'looked' sexy enough. And of course we're all going on looks as of right now...

Re: musikmesse 2010 Frankfurt

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 11:32 am
by kuroichi
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Re: musikmesse 2010 Frankfurt

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 11:39 am
by griffin avid
I think Korg is seeing what kind of reaction and market there would be for them if they went further with an analog synth.

I was going to say that I doubt it works that way. I think most of them look at what's already working and lean in that direction. When people go crazy over a tough screen doo-dad on a synth- you make it its own product....

That Gakken piece which generated all kinds of hype is probably inspiring tons of companies. I would release something like it if I could. $100 dollar limit, analogue, mini keys and DC power. Make it look weird with lots of knobs. I'd sell a million and retire to a tropical island with a girl that's shamefully young. And maybe read the forums every so often.

The Lucina adds say it all, but it's funny that 'dudes' can't imagine a musical instrument pitched at...women...
My gawd, who let them make music?

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Re: musikmesse 2010 Frankfurt

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 11:59 am
by jeeroj
Hybrid88 wrote: ... and the GAIA pronounced "Gay Ear" I presume?! :?
you never heard of Gaia? Mother earth, spirit of nature etc.
read up dude :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaia_(mythology)

Re: musikmesse 2010 Frankfurt

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 12:01 pm
by Syn303
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A Crossfader!! Ummm it's a DJ device, it's a? it's a? what exactly is it?
Compact Flash storage, that's a first, pity they didn't implement that on the MD' to begin with.

I'll wait for the machine's full spec list before spending my hard earned cash.

Re: musikmesse 2010 Frankfurt

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 12:03 pm
by Mush
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Re: musikmesse 2010 Frankfurt

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 12:05 pm
by monolith
Syn303 wrote:
I'll wait for the machine's full spec list before spending my hard earned cash.
Uh... well you're a tool if you don't. :idea:

Re: musikmesse 2010 Frankfurt

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 12:06 pm
by kuroichi
Syn303 wrote:A Crossfader!! Ummm it's a DJ device, it's a? it's a? what exactly is it?
Compact Flash storage, that's a first, pity they didn't implement that on the MD' to begin with.

I'll wait for the machine's full spec list before spending my hard earned cash.
From what Ive read, its an 8 stereo track sampler. It appears to be some kind of live remixer with a sequencer built in.

Theres a small spec list sround on the elektron users forum, but its lost somewhere in all the fan hype...
heres what I read:

8 stereo tracks
4 audio inputs
4 audio outputs
usb 2.0
SD card reader
optical fader
ipmroved Elektron sequencer
realtime pitch shift & time stretch
realtime sampling

Re: musikmesse 2010 Frankfurt

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 12:10 pm
by Syn303
Looks like people (elektron users) got what they wanted - a sampler.
Can expect to see this selling for 1K+

Re: musikmesse 2010 Frankfurt

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 12:14 pm
by jeeroj
Syn303 wrote:Looks like people (elektron users) got what they wanted - a sampler.
Can expect to see this selling for 1K+
yeah, easily. think how many MM and MD users will snap these up! Even if it's so they have the set!

Re: musikmesse 2010 Frankfurt

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 12:16 pm
by kuroichi
Syn303 wrote:Looks like people (elektron users) got what they wanted - a sampler.
Can expect to see this selling for 1K+
I think it's a phrase sampler, kind of like the roland sp404. Looks very nice. Im interested to see the sequencers capabilities. Ive been thinking about getting an MDUW also, and theres mention of a MDUW+ and a MnM+, some kind of internal upgrade... maybe its a memory upgrade for the UW, although I have no idea...

I can definitely see people buying the whole set...

Re: musikmesse 2010 Frankfurt

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 12:21 pm
by Syn303
kuroichi wrote:
Syn303 wrote:Looks like people (elektron users) got what they wanted - a sampler.
Can expect to see this selling for 1K+
I think it's a phrase sampler, kind of like the roland sp404. Looks very nice. Im interested to see the sequencers capabilities. Ive been thinking about getting an MDUW also, and theres mention of a MDUW+ and a MnM+, some kind of internal upgrade... maybe its a memory upgrade for the UW, although I have no idea...

I can definitely see people buying the whole set...
I think the UW+ & MnM+ will have USB and CF storage, i once badgered Elektron a good few times about the shite amount of sample storage available to the UW MkII. Looks like i better sell my old UW MkII i have left for the + version when it appears. I might give the OT a miss after all. Just doesn't fit the bill with me, not even the specs. Although time will tell on this one.