Top 20 Most Unreliable Vintage Synths

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Re: Top 20 Most Unreliable Vintage Synths

Post by rhino » Tue Apr 20, 2010 1:46 am

with age comes fail.( Personal experence.) Most anything can be repaired, but when something goes dead during a crucial time.... @#$@%$#@ and more.

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Re: Top 20 Most Unreliable Vintage Synths

Post by Automatic Gainsay » Tue Apr 20, 2010 1:47 am

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Automatic Gainsay wrote:I can think of components which tend to consistently fail in various vintage synths, but I've never had a vintage synth which was consistently unreliable.
Yes but you're not going to tell me that CS-50 of yours isn't a bugger to keep in tune :?: :)
I am going to tell you that the CS-50 is the most stable of the synths I currently own. (Okay, the CS-15 is pretty stable, too... but still)

I'll let Heath address the CS-80, but the CS-50 is rock solid in tuning, and what's more, it's relatively easy to tune.
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Re: Top 20 Most Unreliable Vintage Synths

Post by Automatic Gainsay » Tue Apr 20, 2010 1:51 am

I have to say I'm sorry to report that the VCS3 has serious and persistent issues which require repair costs which exceed its value. On top of that, a very frequent issue with the VCS3 leads to the leaking of fatally-toxic gasses, and eventually, in 9 times out of ten, a FATAL EXPLOSION.

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Re: Top 20 Most Unreliable Vintage Synths

Post by retrosounds » Tue Apr 20, 2010 2:01 am

The Crumar DS-2 is known to be very unreliable.
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Re: Top 20 Most Unreliable Vintage Synths

Post by cornutt » Tue Apr 20, 2010 2:22 am

The one I haven't seen mentioned is the Chroma Polaris, with the cracking and non-replacable ribbon cables.
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Re: Top 20 Most Unreliable Vintage Synths

Post by Scories » Tue Apr 20, 2010 2:28 am

Everybody forgot to mention the Sequential Circuits PRO-ONE. Problems with keys, tuning and other issues.
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Re: Top 20 Most Unreliable Vintage Synths

Post by guillermotin » Tue Apr 20, 2010 3:25 am

Sadly, I ought to mention the Mono Evolver.

Those pesky encoders are a real let down.

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Re: Top 20 Most Unreliable Vintage Synths

Post by Cumulus » Tue Apr 20, 2010 3:33 am

I also would like to report rock-solid tuing with my CS-50.

Now, there is a little problem with one of the voices but that is getting fixed as we speak....probably old caps leaking.

The tuning, however, has been great and I have had mine since about 1990 or so.

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Re: Top 20 Most Unreliable Vintage Synths

Post by portland » Tue Apr 20, 2010 3:41 am

rhino wrote: Ensoniq Overheating power supply
Yeah WTF. None of my other synths get anywhere near as hot as the EPS (even with a huge heatsink) gets.
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Re: Top 20 Most Unreliable Vintage Synths

Post by rharris07 » Tue Apr 20, 2010 3:49 am

guillermotin wrote:Sadly, I ought to mention the Mono Evolver.

Those pesky encoders are a real let down.

Was this possibly done on purpose, so you would get fed up with the cheap ones and call ol' dave smith for the upgraded knobs and such for an extra chunk of change?

is this the case with the poly evolver too?

i have a P'08 and haven't experienced any trouble what so ever...

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Re: Top 20 Most Unreliable Vintage Synths

Post by Big Gnome » Tue Apr 20, 2010 3:58 am

The Ensoniq VFX deserves mention for the infamous keyboard calibration error. It's an easy fix, but one which must be done at some point.
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Re: Top 20 Most Unreliable Vintage Synths

Post by factorplayer » Tue Apr 20, 2010 10:09 am

Kind of relieved no one has mentioned Oberheims yet...

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Re: Top 20 Most Unreliable Vintage Synths

Post by iProg » Tue Apr 20, 2010 10:40 am

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Re: Top 20 Most Unreliable Vintage Synths

Post by Stab Frenzy » Tue Apr 20, 2010 10:49 am

rharris07 wrote:
guillermotin wrote:Sadly, I ought to mention the Mono Evolver.

Those pesky encoders are a real let down.

Was this possibly done on purpose, so you would get fed up with the cheap ones and call ol' dave smith for the upgraded knobs and such for an extra chunk of change?
No. DSI have fantastic customer service and have replaced a lot of the faulty boards at no cost to the customer. They've send me spare encoder caps, a power supply and a replacement encoder (my housemate broke it accidentally), each time not even charging me for international shipping. They are the last company I'd expect to have built-in obsolescence, and when the problem was identified they changed their encoder supplier (which is why you haven't had any problems with your P08).

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Re: Top 20 Most Unreliable Vintage Synths

Post by HideawayStudio » Tue Apr 20, 2010 10:59 am

Automatic Gainsay wrote:
HideawayStudio wrote:
Automatic Gainsay wrote:I can think of components which tend to consistently fail in various vintage synths, but I've never had a vintage synth which was consistently unreliable.
Yes but you're not going to tell me that CS-50 of yours isn't a bugger to keep in tune :?: :)
I am going to tell you that the CS-50 is the most stable of the synths I currently own. (Okay, the CS-15 is pretty stable, too... but still)

I'll let Heath address the CS-80, but the CS-50 is rock solid in tuning, and what's more, it's relatively easy to tune.
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