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Re: Moog Voyager XL

Post by nvbrkr » Sat Sep 11, 2010 1:51 pm

I might have some trouble myself figuring out the dollar / euro -conversion properly, though. The Performer Edition goes for ca. 2700€ euros at the moment, but it used to cost more when the dollar hadn't tanked yet. For years most of the music equipment was sold at similar prices in Europe and the US (the prices were often roughly the same in € and $). Big City Music seems to have the XL listed at ca. $5000 for the moment, so no bargains there.

They seem to be just counting on making a decent amount of profit from each unit being sold. Even if the sales are modest it can add up sufficiently. You know there are indeed folks that have bought several Voyagers already. Call them enthusiasts, professional musicians or people with too much money, it doesn't really matter.

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Re: Moog Voyager XL

Post by b3groover » Sat Sep 11, 2010 2:56 pm

Wasn't the MacBeth M5 $5k?

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Re: Moog Voyager XL

Post by rharris07 » Sat Sep 11, 2010 4:02 pm

Syn303 wrote:I just wonder if everyone on here would say the same kind of stuff, if Moog released a new Modular system for say $10,000, when you know you could purchase a dot com, COTK, Moon or MOTM system for way less.
IF I ever had ten grand to spend on a modular to begin with - I'd go for a custom built Buchla over a new Moog modular....but maybe I'm crazy?

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Re: Moog Voyager XL

Post by gd » Sat Sep 11, 2010 6:25 pm

tallowwaters wrote:My prediction: Some people will want this synth, some will not.

Some will buy it and be convinced it's the coolest synth ever, never play it and simply look at it and talk about it online.
Some will buy it and play 3 notes and convince themselves that they should sell it a week later and buy something else.
Some will buy it and play it.

Some will not buy it, forever pine for it and buy all sorts of less expensive items, realize those items don't have the Moog sound and trash talk those items online.
Some will not buy it and will use every opportunity they can to tell you why the will not buy it.
Some will not buy it because they realize at the end of the day all synths make a few sounds along the lines of fwonk, whooo, ing, and awaaa. These will be the people that actually make music for a living.
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Re: Moog Voyager XL

Post by Neonlights84 » Sat Sep 11, 2010 8:15 pm

Phollop Willing PA wrote:
smoothcriminal wrote:.... but have they ever made a polysynth?
Yes

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But not lately...

Let's not forget this one: Image
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Re: Moog Voyager XL

Post by nadafarms » Sat Sep 11, 2010 10:42 pm

b3groover wrote:Wasn't the MacBeth M5 $5k?
I think the m5n was like $6000 in the states when it was available, I wouldn't have bought it new but I just bought one for $4500 shipped and am soooooo stoked.... 8-)

But the more I think of it I would prefer this XL over the voyager of course, I mean it does look pretty damn cool but I think everyone is just pissed they aren't focusing their energy being innovative/creative.

I hope they make a phatty XL to redeem themselves.
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Re: Moog Voyager XL

Post by Neonlights84 » Sun Sep 12, 2010 5:51 pm

nadafarms wrote:
b3groover wrote:Wasn't the MacBeth M5 $5k?
I think the m5n was like $6000 in the states when it was available, I wouldn't have bought it new but I just bought one for $4500 shipped and am soooooo stoked.... 8-)

But the more I think of it I would prefer this XL over the voyager of course, I mean it does look pretty damn cool but I think everyone is just pissed they aren't focusing their energy being innovative/creative.

I hope they make a phatty XL to redeem themselves.

Hmm, a Phatty XL... I'd settle for a Phatty that ditched the membrane buttons for some hot one knob per function action. I can't shake the feeling that those buttons are going to be an issue moving forward... :|
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Re: Moog Voyager XL

Post by druzz » Sun Sep 12, 2010 6:18 pm

why dont they put on a switch for trigger modes ?? i think its an important feature , i hate diving in menus for such a basic function . and a switch for manual mode (real panel parameters) would have been nice.

what would be kickass is if they implemented ''real analog control '' like on the little phatty on the voyager.

the BIG PHATTY is next. ;)

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Re: Moog Voyager XL

Post by pflosi » Sun Sep 12, 2010 6:26 pm

tallowwaters wrote:My prediction: Some people will want this synth, some will not.

Some will buy it and be convinced it's the coolest synth ever, never play it and simply look at it and talk about it online.
Some will buy it and play 3 notes and convince themselves that they should sell it a week later and buy something else.
Some will buy it and play it.

Some will not buy it, forever pine for it and buy all sorts of less expensive items, realize those items don't have the Moog sound and trash talk those items online.
Some will not buy it and will use every opportunity they can to tell you why the will not buy it.
Some will not buy it because they realize at the end of the day all synths make a few sounds along the lines of fwonk, whooo, ing, and awaaa. These will be the people that actually make music for a living.
this ends more than only this thread. thanks tallow! :lol:

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Re: Moog Voyager XL

Post by hfinn » Sun Sep 12, 2010 10:31 pm

Yes, moog made a poly with the polymoog- and a "true" polyphonic with the Memorymoog.

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Re: Moog Voyager XL

Post by nvbrkr » Mon Sep 13, 2010 5:16 am

druzz wrote:why dont they put on a switch for trigger modes ?? i think its an important feature , i hate diving in menus for such a basic function . and a switch for manual mode (real panel parameters) would have been nice.
This is a good point. They extended the synth's size considerably, but instead of having some of those functions buried in the menus as switches they just implemented the expansion boxes there. A knob or two for filter pole selection would have been useful as well. The smoothed S&H available on the lfo controls would have been nice too. At least I use that all the time.

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Re: Moog Voyager XL

Post by spookyman » Mon Sep 13, 2010 7:21 am

druzz wrote:the BIG PHATTY is next. ;)
Or perhaps a Poly Phatty, with 6 voices polyphony, and the same sound boards like in the Little Phatty ! That would be cool...
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Re: Moog Voyager XL

Post by mcomeg » Mon Sep 13, 2010 12:47 pm

I'm sure it will sound like a beast, but my anal-retentive mind is disturbed by the lack of symmetry on the thing. My Voyager barely fits on my table as it is - I can't imagine how I could get something even longer there.

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Re: Moog Voyager XL

Post by skweeegor » Mon Sep 13, 2010 12:48 pm

Maybe moog will suck my d**k.

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Re: Moog Voyager XL

Post by druzz » Mon Sep 13, 2010 3:26 pm

nvbrkr wrote:
druzz wrote:why dont they put on a switch for trigger modes ?? i think its an important feature , i hate diving in menus for such a basic function . and a switch for manual mode (real panel parameters) would have been nice.
This is a good point. They extended the synth's size considerably, but instead of having some of those functions buried in the menus as switches they just implemented the expansion boxes there. A knob or two for filter pole selection would have been useful as well. The smoothed S&H available on the lfo controls would have been nice too. At least I use that all the time.
yeah more modulation bus destinations on the front panel would be sweet . it wouldnt take more place to have more positions on the rotatry switches .

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